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OBAMA PAL REV RICK WARREN BOTTOMS OUT
jgrantswankjr ^ | Dec 31 | J. Grant Swank, Jr.

Posted on 12/31/2009 9:32:32 AM PST by freedomyes

Many evangelicals wondered why under heaven Pastor Rick Warren, Saddleback mega-Church, was so cordial to Barack Hussein Obama during the presidential campaign.

Countless conservatives were so taken aback that they couldn’t digest the facts when first told.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: conservatives; evangelical; rickwarren
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1 posted on 12/31/2009 9:32:33 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: freedomyes

Live by the hype, die by the hype.

Plus he’s asking his church for 900 grand in the last two days of the year in a fundraising letter he ends with “I love you all so much.”

What a transparent individual he is. I pray everyone else would see it.


2 posted on 12/31/2009 9:36:15 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: freedomyes
Warren and Saddleback can't hit bottom fast enough for me. Why doesn't Warren, the multimillionaire, give some of HIS money? He is worse than the government. He, just like all the millionaire “ministers,” are always calling for OTHERS to give. Mr. Rick, you first.
3 posted on 12/31/2009 9:37:18 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: freedomyes

This guy got too cozy with liberalism, and now he’s a million dollars i the hole. Boo freakin Hoo.


4 posted on 12/31/2009 9:37:22 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: freedomyes

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:grantswank/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

retread


5 posted on 12/31/2009 9:38:29 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: freedomyes

Rev. Warren gave creedence to this man, and a platform.

Never should have happened.


6 posted on 12/31/2009 9:39:08 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: freedomyes

I’d bet$100 that Warren VOTED for the demented Marxist for President. Warren is all about Warren. Didn’t the silly Warren declare that SYRIA was hospitable to Christians a year ago? Bob


7 posted on 12/31/2009 9:40:42 AM PST by alstewartfan (I)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Rick Warren worships at the alter of Rick Warren.


8 posted on 12/31/2009 9:42:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: freedomyes

Warren ended any credibility when he began self promoting in the shadow of Obama.

(just another 30 pieces of silver pastor)


9 posted on 12/31/2009 9:42:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nosterrex

“Mr. Rick, you first.”

I am NOT a fan of Warren, however, Warren and his wife tithe 90% of all their incomes to the church...they didn’t always, they started out giving 10% and eventually went to 90%.

You will not find any of the “TV” preachers who do so.


10 posted on 12/31/2009 9:43:03 AM PST by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: alstewartfan

Warrens also said that Muslims worship the same God as Christians.


11 posted on 12/31/2009 9:44:31 AM PST by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Are you telling me he is just a better-dressed Jimmy Swaggart?


12 posted on 12/31/2009 9:45:23 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Moby Grape

If you can afford, as pastor of a church, to tithe 90 percent of your income to the church, you are making way too much, IMHO.

There are also some clever tricks that can be used to deal with this. Donate 90 percent of your income to the church, then the church gives you things you would not normally get ie, pays for your house, pays for transportation, pays for your clothing, pays for your travel expenses, pays for a whole lotta the “perks” that the other churches make their pastors pay for. IMHO, its a way to live even MORE extravagantly than the 10 percenters.

I trust no one in charge of a mega church. No good happens in a stadium (think circuses,professional sports,benny hinn, concerts, and political bs).


13 posted on 12/31/2009 9:49:07 AM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Moby Grape

That is good to know, and I will take your word for it. I stand corrected.


14 posted on 12/31/2009 9:52:13 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: freedomyes

Two words - MMMMMMM MMMMMMM.


15 posted on 12/31/2009 9:52:25 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: wombtotomb

“If you can afford, as pastor of a church, to tithe 90 percent of your income to the church, you are making way too much, IMHO.”

I suspect this comes from book royalties and not salary...


16 posted on 12/31/2009 9:54:51 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: cripplecreek
Rick Warren worships at the alter of Rick Warren.

That's the problem I have with mega-churches and their pastors. All too often it becomes about them and not about Christ. My preference is a small church where the pastor can be held accountable by his congregation....and you don't have to check the church directory to find out who someone is.

17 posted on 12/31/2009 9:56:12 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

that may be so, but think of the tax writeoff on 90 PERCENT of his income being donated, then the church providing for all of his needs.

Sounds suspicously like congress to me....


18 posted on 12/31/2009 9:57:46 AM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Retired COB

yes


19 posted on 12/31/2009 9:58:31 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: Vigilanteman

If I were in Warren’s place, representing a large congregation, I would have been inclined to reach out to zero as well. Rick Warren has never indicated regret for his action, however, the way things turned out, he may. 20 / 20 hindsight is fairly easy. His approach could have used some polish and I wish he had stood on principal more than he did. I believe his heart was in the right place but he should have checked with some Christian Brothers before stepping out.


20 posted on 12/31/2009 9:59:34 AM PST by Bowtie52
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