Posted on 12/20/2009 8:19:31 PM PST by proud2b4family
So, yeah. I'm a Mormon. :) My rant below is my personal opinion and not to be taken as the official position of the LDS Church.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I believe the Book of Mormon is a volume of scripture and a companion to the Bible in talking about God's dealings with His other children on the earth...the ones who migrated to the Americas.
What I want to bring to your attention is that what we've been going through with this left vs. right infighting is nothing new. Especially on this continent, which is actually set apart by God as a place of refuge and freedom from tyranny. The Book of Mormon tells the story, which occurs in the year 62 B.C., which I'll summarize thusly:
Moroni, the commander of the Nephite army fighting insurgents called Lamanites who are attacking from another land, complains to Pahoran, who is the Nephite chief judge (similar to a president) of the government’s neglect of the armies—The Lord suffers the righteous to be slain—The Nephites must use all of their power and means to deliver themselves from their enemies—Moroni threatens to fight against the government unless help is supplied to his armies.
Pahoran tells Moroni of the insurrection and rebellion against the government by a band of traitors calling themselves "king-men"—The king-men take Zarahemla and are in league with the Lamanites—Pahoran asks for military aid against the rebels.
Moroni marches to the aid of Pahoran in the land of Gideon—The king-men who refuse to defend their country are put to death—Pahoran and Moroni retake Nephihah—Many Lamanites join the people of Ammon (Nephites)—Teancum slays Ammoron (a Nephite defector who started the war) and is in turn slain—The Lamanites are driven from the land, and peace is established.
Here is where the real difference was made. (<--Read it. It matters in understanding the rest of this post.) Note, if you are squeamish at the thought of inflicting the death penalty on traitors, you will probably disagree with the method Moroni is forced to use to restore peace...yet the results of bold, swift, and decisive action are clear and undeniable. The reason and justification, unassailable. If you don't remove the root of the cancer, it will quickly spread until it destroys the whole body.
Now before anyone, including the federal authorities reading this, gets uptight and starts marking me as a national security threat, I am NOT advocating violence between right and left factions or against government officials.
WE THE PEOPLE are the government, not some group of chuckleheaded fat cats in Washington D.C.
WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for our own misery due to our apathy and lack of character as a nation.
WE THE PEOPLE need to stand up to these unaccountable bullies and put them in their places--sitting at home in their comfy leather chairs wondering what the heck happened to their comfy positions in Washington D.C.
But WE THE PEOPLE can't stop there, folks.
WE THE PEOPLE have to be very vigilant (for the very price of freedom IS vigilance) in making sure they don't return from their graves as zombie lobbyists or "advisors". They need to be shut out completely from public service even in the guise of working for "non-profits" or "non-governmental organizations".
WE THE PEOPLE need to maintain an enemy watchlist, partly through the power of social media, with which we can constantly keep track of these global robber-barons and their marauding ways. (The Book of Mormon also has a strategy for defeating hidden conspiracies, btw.) Then, wherever we find them creating new machiavellian machinations, we must wield the power of popular opinion over which we now have control and crush their self-serving hopes and dreams into oblivion.
Make no mistake about it, the Book of Mormon is a warning voice for our time. Mormon, the person who compiled it from an archive of his fallen nation's history, did so out of love and concern for those of us who would come in the future. It's a "how to" manual of what to do to ensure safety and peace and freedom. It is also a "how NOT to" manual on what to AVOID doing to avert disasters like the one his nation suffered.
Mormon and his son, also named Moroni, were the very last surviving members of their people. They knew whereof they spoke.
“Make no mistake about it, the Book of Mormon is a warning voice for our time.”
Make no mistake about it, people must be warned that the
Book of Mormon is cultic literature.
Lets not go into history or no denomination could stand righteous... When Revelation was written it wasn't written to one church, it was written to 7 different Church's. I am not the judge of any Mormon or and other Christian denomination...There is sometimes too much hostility toward others, when we all should heed the Lords advice to the woman to with 5 husbands......Go and Sin no more....that means all of us...
Galatians 1:8-9 - But even if we or an angel* from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! (NIV)
* - For example, if an angel named “Moroni” were to bring another gospel...
And it is another gospel and another so-called salvation and another so-called heaven and another Jesus.
“Captain Moroni”
Wait...I think he’s on my generic spaghetti can!
Yep...there he is..trailed by corporal Cheesio!!!
Ok, you’re Mormon. We understand. If you are a conservative, you’re welcome...but you probably shouldn’t push your religion. There are enough of you on bikes with your backpacks in my own apartment complex.
Maybe I should invite the guys in for some captain Moronios. I’m pretty sure that’s what the cans I get from the Aldi are called.
Maybe we can talk about the things we have in common. I can show them my regular underwear and they can say it’s all wrong....that God wants me to wear special underwear?
I mean...I’ve read ALOT about your religion. I’m a Christian. Now, what was your point again?
How many examples to you want?
Thank you goat granny. I thought I was among more friends than this on Freep, but I’m glad to see that there is someone who can see my real point and not just sectarian talking points.
How about a Corp probably worth in excess of $50-70 Billion bucks?
How about a Corp that builds/buys million/billion $$ malls, ranches, hotels, etc, etc....but spends a fraction of that on feeding the hungry, helping the hurting, digging wells...etc.
How about a Corp...that won't even give it's "member's" a true independent accounting of it's assets?
Let's just start there.
Want to?
That old chestnut? Sorry if you misread the topic. It’s not about your opinion of the veracity of the Book of Mormon, it’s about what it actually has to say. Obviously, you didn’t read the links or the whole post.
Other than this clarification, post all you want, but I won’t be responding to your ad-hominem, unsubstantiated attacks.
Kinda like the Dims foisting up the "fact" of Global Warming.....
You will take flak........
And I'm sorry you are apparently very mislead....
I pray, for your very eternal life...that you learn the Truth.
I’d love to give you an answer, but your post makes absolutly no sense to me. sorry.....
proud - ok...I get it...you are mormon and you are upset because others aren’t.
When I go to other sites...I see many people maligning ANY believers...
...so what is it you want? You want FR to bow before Moroni?
Good luck with that.
When I truly became a Christian a friend sent me YOUR bible.
Reading it struck me as cold, uninspired and a rehash of what is already in my regular old Christian Bible.
Like eating cold potatoes...you know? You can eat the cold potatoes...but they’d be so ,much better warm...
That’s what your Moroni text was like for me.
Now...WHAT was your point again?
I would recommend that you research the finances of LDS, Inc.
IOW....follow the MONEY.
Truth is self-evident. You do not have to go very far or dig too deep to reveal lies.
Zero archealogical evidence, no DNA evidence, a closed Canon of Scripture, a departure from 1,700 year old church doctrine, total lack of cohesion with the current Bible of 66 books, no authentication by any prophet or the LAST prophet, the Messiah, God in the flesh (Jesus Christ), .....and numerous warnings in the New Testament against the false prophets that would come in the last days.
LDS is a cult full of damnable heresies.
You’re welcome to join us conservatives, but hell is too hot and eternity is too long to promote Mormonism.
No one, let me repeat NO ONE, is preaching the GOSPEL Jesus preached. Not the church, not moroni, not the pope, not anyone. Don’t even make a comment to me. Go look for yourself as READ WHAT JESUS SAID WAS THE GOSPEL. THAT’S THE GOSPEL THAT NEEDS TO BE PREACHED.
No we're not. Its a sentimental thought but its devoid of any real meaning. We elect individuals to rule over us (government). The American population does not pass laws, our rulers do although on a rare occasion we the people can influence them.
not some group of chuckleheaded fat cats in Washington D.C.
Thats exactly who our government is.
I agree with your sentiments so don't take this as an attack from me.
I’m not LDS, but no population can abide traitors within and expect to survive or prosper.
Wrong. We elect individuals to represent us. There is a big difference.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.