Can anyone provide a link to credible sources of clear, simple satellite photos that indicate unchanging or expanding polar ice caps?
They are expanding but that doesn’t have anything to do with a climate change. It’s due to the ozone holes at the poles. They reduce the greenhouse effect.
It’s clear to me that they are respanding exceeedingly.
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/851/Polar_ice_cap_studies_refute_global_warming.html
Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve... The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
From: Newsweek: The Cooling World (April 28, 1975)
Meet the new alarmists, same as the old alarmists.
Wanna buy a years supply of food? Two years?? Pooooor Art Bell.
This year the ice pack, so far, is expanding faster than normal.
BTW, while everyone talks about the arctic the antarctic actually contains 90% of the world's ice and has been growing.
The satellite photos only show how much area the ice covers. Doesn’t it also matter how thick the ice is? Do they have some way to measure that?
i.e. The prevailing winds could push the ice from one area to another, causing it to pile up, and still have the same amount of ice, more or less, just more concentrated in some areas instead of being spread out.
ScienceDaily (June 26, 2008) A research team led by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) has uncovered evidence of explosive volcanic eruptions deep beneath the ice-covered surface of the Arctic Ocean. Such violent eruptions of splintered, fragmented rock--known as pyroclastic deposits -- were not thought possible at great ocean depths because of the intense weight and pressure of water and because of the composition of seafloor magma and rock.
Your friends should have to make the connection, not you. Instead use the same graphics to show the dangers of ill portioned hamburger ketchup. If the ice caps expand...it was ketchup. If they shrink...its ketchup. If they stay the same...its due to ketchup. All natural disasters in modern times...due to ketchup. After all you have PROOF...since your friends can't deny that there were natural disasters. Show them any old pictures of destruction and human suffering due to disasters. Demand to know what they are going to do about ketchup portions in their own lives. If they balk, tell them the debate is over, and any "expert" who disagrees is in league with "Big Ketchup" (i.e. John Kerry).
In order for ice to melt it must be warmed above its freezing point. Ice cannot melt in Antarctica since it is virtually always below freezing even in the Summer. Ice can however be lost via sublimation, which is caused directly from the sun. The ice pack in the Arctic is different in that it is mostly sea ice and can be affected by warmer localized ocean currents. These local warmer ocean currents do not indicate that the entire earth’s oceans are warming. In fact sensors indicate that the oceans as a whole have not warmed at all this entire dcade.
(Some of the satellite data from around the end of 2008 and and through the beginning of 2009 unfortunately are considered not useful due to problems with a satellite's sensing unit; you can look at Satellite sensor errors cause data outage for a long discussion of the problems.)
For you review.
You may want to repost your topic with this.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/recent365.anom.region.9.html
Most of my work is posted at nationalforestlawblog.com Oct. Newsletter.
The present situation is sunspots. There are few and far between. We are in a solar minimum which means.
Fewer and weaker hurricanes and shorter hurricane seasons
Appears to be an increase in tornados and stronger longer lasting Tornados
Increased glacier activity; is not the Arctic a floating glacier
Severe winters, severe cold
Crop damage and lower yields
Drop in Ozone production which needs hot summers
Long term drought
By the way, there is a documentary out there that shows during post WWII that a lake in Antarctica had water at 40 degrees due to an underground volcanic activity.
In all my studies I have not come across volcanic activity under the Arctic.