Posted on 11/17/2009 11:29:10 AM PST by Candor7
We need an observation network of Jihadi Training Camps in the USA. Our government has now classified terrorist acts as crimes. That invokes the right of citizen self defence agaist crimes. To defend ourselves we need information on threat, which our government, including Homeland Security, no longer provides to the people.
We need to do that ourselves.
A Congressional Hearing into the Issue has been derailed.
We need to organize.
Seeking Freepers in these locations who are interested in providing information:
Jamaat ul-Fuqra camps
(Also known as Muslims of America and Quranic Open University)
1. Deposit, NY
2. Hancock, NY (National Headquarters)
3. Springfield, MA
4. Philadelphia, PA
5. Hyattsville, MD
6. Fairfax, VA
7. Bethany, WV
8. Red House, VA
9. Meherrin, VA
10. Dover, TN
11. York, SC
12. Commerce, GA
13. Jessup, GA
14. Marion, AL
15. Houston, TX
16. Talihina, OK
17. Coldwater, MI
18. Buena Vista, CO (Raided and shut down by Colorado authorities in 1992)
19. Baladullah, CA (Leader convicted of scamming state out of $1.3 million in 2006. Compound now abandoned.)
20. Oak Hill, CA
21. Onalaska, WA
Looks like York, SC. I’ll have to do some semi-local lookie loo.
I see . So I guess we cross that one of the list then?
Ok, we just forget it, and thats it.
Thak you very much.
I will take your word for it. It might be possible that once the hammat was discovered and a spotlight was shined on it, they decided to abandon those plans. I would ask you to check in other areas close by.
The last real report on this particular hammat was in June of this year.
Also, terrorists coming in through both the southern border and via Canada have been easily passing for hispanic immigrants. They adopt hispanic names and speak Spanish fluently. Don’t know if that’s the case where you are, but it’s a possiblity.
Both hamas and hezbullah operate freely south of the border, and more recently, al qaeda has joined the mix. LaRaza/aka MEChA, has particularly close ties with the muslim brotherhood and the plo.
Training camps are in full operation down there.
Further south, Central and South America, they operate with autonomy and support from the marxists in several countries there.
The problem is growing exponentially.
This is really serious as you say. The trainig camps will have access to secret intel, but we as citizens will not know anything. Also false information will be inputted into the security infrastructure, making it useless.
So as you see, we need our own net. And it needs to be pretty loose and general at first. But it could save a
lot of lives, and allow us to prevent them from seizing large amounts of territory temporarily, and starting a guerilla war.
The camps next to military bases are a real problem. If there are already jihadis in the military, it may be possible for the camp jihadis to obtain military ordnance for use against civilians by raiding and then taking the ordnance into secret prepared locations, in order to initiate guerilla warfare.
The jihadis will attack police stations, and military installations first.They also will take group hostages in various towns, and that will keep from being immediately apprehended by authorities.Many of the hostages will be children, perhaps a whole school in some cases.
Soon we will have no security apparatus that makes sense. I do not believe that the Muslims who are now in security offices, as invited, will sell out their jihadi brothers.
One wonders why they have not invited Buddhists, Anglicans, Mormans, Roman Catholics and Episcopalians as well?
Yes Tiger, this is very bad news.
Thanks, let us know what you come up with.
Lat.: 46.57528
Lon.: -122.71694
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=10&X=2609&Y=25776&W=1
One wonders why they have not invited Buddhists, Anglicans, Mormans, Roman Catholics and Episcopalians as well?
Can't be trusted?
bkmark
Considering how keyed up I am about it all I can just imagine.
I haven't been by in a little over two years...but then, there was absolutely nothing there.
I'll check in with family to see what they know...but I strongly believe there could not be a terrorist camp there. The locals wouldn't put up with it.
Each, and every, person that lives in those parts is ARMED TO THE TEETH and they OWN local law enforcement.
This is not your average community. It's the epicenter of patriots for the entire state. If you make the assumption of 200 households within a 5 mile radius...there are AT LEAST 400 assault weapons and 500k rounds of ammo.
If outsiders started building something...they'd have to answer for what it was they were building. If they were shooting there, they'd REALLY have to come up with some damn good answers.
Even though Jamaat ul-Fuqra has been involved in terror attacks and sundry criminal activities, recruited thousands of members from federal and state penal systems, and appears to be operating paramilitary facilities for militant Muslims, it remains to be placed on the official US Terror Watch List. On the contrary, it continues to operate, flourish, and expand as a legitimate nonprofit, tax-deductible charity.
Isn't that special? Most of us would have our property taken and our lives ruined, by the government, just for some of the county code violations going on there.
Sounds like the town I live in now.
Sometiems these places are just for caches and bunkers. Sometimes just for camping and exercises.
It would be interesting to see what the town clerk knows about ownership.
Paul WIlliams seemed to think there is a hammat there ( camp) but I don’t know why yet.He lists it as late as March of 2009:
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/03/return-to-islamberg.html
Follow up on Islamberg, , the range is not used now. They do bunker training, whatever that might be.
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/03/return-to-islamberg.html
Here is a little intel update.The basic training is complete, specific intel is being gathered in the opinion of the poster here:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/03/neutering-constitution.html
Interesting source material for several Hammats , on the left side as you scroll down.
It appears that the basic training is complete and that planning phase and intel ops are now what is being engaged.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/
Camps can be observed without whoever is using them being infiltrated.
But exact locations, either conventional directions/addresses, or WGS-84 (GPS) coordinate, would be most helpful. Houston is a big place for instance, and there is a lot of country, fairly hilly country, around Talihina, OK.
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