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Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms
DefendUSx ^ | November 11, 2009 | DefendUSx

Posted on 11/12/2009 6:01:58 PM PST by opentalk

On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.

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To: ElectronVolt

I recall being taught in college that a treaty is able to take precedence over the constitution. But in reading a few articles on the subject it looks like the senate is barred from even considering a treaty that contradicts the constitution.

This appears to be a hoax (thankfully), but the constitutional / treaty issue is no small matter of understanding.

Thank you for correcting me.


101 posted on 11/12/2009 11:28:14 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

How are we going to even know about it unless or until the blue hats come knocking at our doors to confiscate? By then it will be too late. Zero apparently intends to shut off our means of communiation and our ONLY means of getting the real news and truth. We’ll be left just AS clueless about what’s really happening as most of the moronic lefties. He just keeps going and going, like the energizer bunny, and he’s just gettin started.

And yet here we sit, still.

Absolutely amazing.


102 posted on 11/12/2009 11:33:03 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: opentalk
I detest Obama and his policies and I don't trust him one bit, but...

This article is a bunch of hyperbole.

103 posted on 11/12/2009 11:36:32 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: opentalk

Nah! Ya think?


104 posted on 11/12/2009 11:36:40 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: usconservative

Is it a hoax that Zero is pro-UN, which is anti-gun ownership? Is it a hoax that Zero is a Marxist Chicago thug with a s-load of commie czars that is intent on controlling every aspect of our lives (and deaths)?

I’ll tell you what the hoax is. Anyone that tries to say otherwise.


105 posted on 11/12/2009 11:39:56 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Southbound
"Obama may try something otherwise, but he'll run square into an armed populace, if he does."

And if he has declared martial law...for 'some' reason? What then?

106 posted on 11/12/2009 11:42:27 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: SpeedRacer

Not necessarily. If they pass the Deathcare crap, and certain states secede (opt out) there very well could be another Civil War.


107 posted on 11/12/2009 11:44:08 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: jkeith3213; All

You guys are talking ‘as if’ this administration gives a rolling crap about the constitution and what it says.

The reality is...they DON’T!

After everything that’s happened, you still don’t get that?

Amazing.


108 posted on 11/12/2009 11:48:31 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: OldNavyVet
Constitution Article II, Section 2 requires all treaties to be concurred by 2/3 of Senators present.

Present.

Key word. Not 2/3 of the Senate, but 2/3 of those present.

Would it be beyond the Obamites to engineer a favorable assemblage before bringing the matter up in the Senate?

With all of the crap they have pulled thus far, you know it would not.

109 posted on 11/12/2009 11:52:09 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dick Bachert; All
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110 posted on 11/13/2009 2:57:05 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: andy58-in-nh
"85 million American gun 0wners"

I don't know of course, but I would bet that your number is a bitlow.

111 posted on 11/13/2009 3:31:17 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: XenaLee
I’ll tell you what the hoax is. Anyone that tries to say otherwise.

Facts be damn'ed that there's no SB 2099 in this Senate eh?

Nice defense you have going there.

112 posted on 11/13/2009 3:52:25 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: NELSON111
Remember all the posts back then about how Clinton wasn't going to leave office? How he was going to find some reason to declare martial law? It was rampant back then...

I'm proud to say I wasn't one of those people, who are just as nuts as some on this thread who never bothered to see if the supposed bill even existed in the first place.

Yep, I've been around a long time and I guess you're right> some things never change.

113 posted on 11/13/2009 3:54:13 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: o_zarkman44
Any treaty signed by this president is probably undesirable, unconstitutional, and not in America's best interest.

And the fact that there is no such treaty? What about that?

Look, I despise the current Marxist occupier of the White House as much as the next (reasonably sane) guy. But some people just let their emotions run away with them and seemingly never bother to stop and fact-check whether something's accurate or not.

Lord knows there's plenty of FACTUAL things like his constant DITHERING on AFGHANISTAN while our soldiers die to hold him accountable for, rather than knee-jerk reacting to an internet RUMOR that up until my post #46?) on this thread that no one bothered to stop and see if it was true or not.

I'm just sayin ......

114 posted on 11/13/2009 3:57:39 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: StolarStorm

It would not be hard to starve out the liberal cesspool cities and cut power and communication lines. Wait them out and pick em off on the way out .


115 posted on 11/13/2009 4:10:44 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies om Planet' and " Battle of the Worlds " on Blu-ray ?)
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To: opentalk

Oh Please...

A US President cannot sign away the Bill of Rights..

In a treaty or otherwise..

We all know the UN is a bunch of incompetent corrupt boobs Much like our own current US Leadership Republi-Con and Demon-Crat alike.

Why give them credit for being anything else?

Why give a Crap what treaty who signs?

The American people will simply refuse to comply when they try to enforce it.

Want an International Tax? Watch that one turn into a referendum on all taxes.. Want to disarm the American People.. Well good luck (sarc).

In the small arms race it is the worlds Armies and Police at 50 million small Arms (maybe). The US Citizenry 110 million small arms.

Armed troops and Police world wide.. 50 million? Armed US Citizenry 90 million..

That’s one Arms race would be tyrants of the world have already lost.

Like a walnut sized brained Dinosaur they just don’t know it yet.

W


116 posted on 11/13/2009 4:25:39 AM PST by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: usconservative

Ditto.


117 posted on 11/13/2009 4:30:54 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: StolarStorm

Thats what Barack Hussien was selected to do.
The Abe Lincoln train ride into D.C. was our first hint as to what they have planned for us.


118 posted on 11/13/2009 4:42:06 AM PST by winodog (Dont be mad at boomers for inventing the WWW and stealing your real life from you.)
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To: MiltonFriedmanFan

Know what you mean.Lived a short time in those backwoods(Arbuckle).Still have kin up in Eleanor.

Home is here in Alabama.These folks are’nt to much different.

I don’t think DC knows what Free Americans are about.


119 posted on 11/13/2009 5:24:06 AM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: XenaLee
That would be asking for an armed uprising. Somewhere around 85-100 million gun owners in this country, who own somewhere around 250-300 million guns would also have lots of nice fresh rope. Declaring martial law just to confiscate guns would decorate a lot of lamp posts, IMHO. I don't think he's THAT stupid.
120 posted on 11/13/2009 5:33:44 AM PST by Southbound ("A liar in public life is worse than a full-paid-up Communist, and I don't care who he is." - HST)
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