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In NY-23, Conservatives Win (Erick Erickson of Red State)
RedState.com ^ | Wednesday, November 4th at 12:04AM EST | Erick Erickson

Posted on 11/03/2009 10:24:33 PM PST by nutmeg

The race has now been called for Democrat Bill Owens.

This is a huge win for conservatives.

“Whaaaa. . . ?” you say.

There are two big victories at work in New York’s 23rd Congressional District.

First, the GOP now must recognize it will either lose without conservatives or will win with conservatives. In 2008, many conservatives sat home instead of voting for John McCain. Now, in NY-23, conservatives rallied and destroyed the Republican candidate the establishment chose.

I have said all along that the goal of activists must be to defeat Scozzafava. Doug Hoffman winning would just be gravy. A Hoffman win is not in the cards, but we did exactly what we set out to do — crush the establishment backed GOP candidate.

And make no mistake, despite the Beltway spin, we know for certain based on statements from the local Republican parties, that they chose Scozzafava based on advice from the Washington crowd.

So we have demonstrated to the GOP that it must not take conservatives for granted. The GOP spent $900,000.00 on a Republican who dropped out and endorsed the Democrat. Were we to combine Scozzafava and Hoffman’s votes, Hoffman would have won.

Secondly, and just as importantly, there has all of a sudden been a huge movement among some activists to go the third party route. We see in NY-23 that this is not possible as third parties are not viable.

Third parties lack funding and ability for a host of reasons. Conservatives are going to have to work from within the GOP. The GOP had better pay attention.

For all intents and purposes, NY-23 is a trial run for Florida. And in Florida, the conservative candidate is operating inside the GOP. If John Cornyn and the NRSC do not want to see Florida go the way of NY-23, they better stand down.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: conservativevote; hoffman; ny2009; ny23; owens; scozzafava; scuzzafava; scuzzy
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1 posted on 11/03/2009 10:24:35 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

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2 posted on 11/03/2009 10:25:41 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: FlipWilson; ejdrapes; Impy; GVnana

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3 posted on 11/03/2009 10:27:07 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: nutmeg

Fulton County machines break; court order issued

Last Update: 11/03 11:36 pm

http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/Fulton-County-machines-break-court-order-issued/dSY52Bssm0iYlGz06S7Chg.cspx

Fulton County (WSYR-TV) – NewsChannel 9 has learned voting machines in Fulton County, which is a part of the 23rd Congressional District, have been impounded, after the machines were not working property today, the Fulton County Board of Elections confirms.

The county was forced to switch over to paper ballots.

They were not planning on counting any votes Tuesday night. We’re told by the Board of Elections, the paper ballots cannot be touched until the absentee ballots are opened a week from Tuesday.

The Board of Elections says they do not know how many people voted, but there are 22 districts in Fulton County.


4 posted on 11/03/2009 10:27:38 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: nutmeg

Either candidate will win in FLa so that’s why it’s so confounding. It’s not like Crist is the only guy who will win so lets be pragmatic.


5 posted on 11/03/2009 10:29:15 PM PST by byteback
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

OK..ruin this one...


6 posted on 11/03/2009 10:29:32 PM PST by Hildy
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To: nutmeg
newt soczzafava
7 posted on 11/03/2009 10:30:00 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: deannadurbin

Why are absentee ballots counted a week after election day?


8 posted on 11/03/2009 10:30:44 PM PST by Hildy
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To: nutmeg
Secondly, and just as importantly, there has all of a sudden been a huge movement among some activists to go the third party route.

But, had it not been for 3rd party, would Hoffman been in and/or gotten as far as he did?

9 posted on 11/03/2009 10:32:02 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: Hildy

They’re lazy?


10 posted on 11/03/2009 10:32:20 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: Hildy

I don’t think absentee ballots are even counted, unless the number of absentee ballots could swing the election results.


11 posted on 11/03/2009 10:32:56 PM PST by kevao (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Hildy

Oh, I’m so sorry that I upset your loss appreciation threads. I’ll attempt to refrain from doing so in the future.


12 posted on 11/03/2009 10:35:07 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: nutmeg

Yep. So Owens won, whatever...
I’ve always said I’d rather get knifed in the face than in the back.
Good riddance to Scozzafava, and the GOP party hacks who put her up in the first place can bite me.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 10:38:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard (Go Phillies!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

It’s just amazing that you think tonight was a failure..it’s astounding to me.


14 posted on 11/03/2009 10:38:50 PM PST by Hildy
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To: nutmeg; All

When talking with Brit Hume on Fox News (about two hours ago) about Hoffamn’s looming defeat, Juan Williams gave the reasons why he thought that Hoffman was probably going to lose.

He said that the main reason that Hoffman was probably going to lose is because he entered the race late, because he lacked charisma, and because he lacked the political expertise to wage an effective campaign against Owens.

Liberals are trying to spin this to try and pin the loss on Tea Partiers, Sarah Palin, Hannity and so on. The reasons that Democrats are giving why Hoffman lost, though, are bogus.

If there was any reason(s) why Hoffman lost it would be more likely to be because of the reasons that Juan Williams gave, and not the reasons that Democrats are giving.

I mean, Juan’s a liberal and all!

Be sure to counter Democrats/Liberals talking points about why they think Hoffman lost with the analysis given by Juan Williams.


15 posted on 11/03/2009 10:39:56 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Be sure to counter Democrats/Liberals talking points about why they think Hoffman lost with the analysis given by Juan Williams.

Yep, I agree with Juan (can't believe I'm saying that! LOL).

16 posted on 11/03/2009 10:41:46 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: nutmeg

A Democrat won a seat for the first time in 100 years giving them another vote in the House. I do not see that as a victory.


17 posted on 11/03/2009 10:44:25 PM PST by Sasquatch the Original
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To: Sasquatch the Original

THE BIG PICTURE. We keep saying that we’d rather have a D screw things up then an R. It’s only a year. We’ll take this seat back...And all the others. What a bunch of whiny babies...I’m shocked at FR. This was a huge night for us and some of you are just choosing to be miserable.


18 posted on 11/03/2009 10:47:40 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Sasquatch the Original

Did you read the comments above by Erickson? On its face Hoffman’s loss is certainly not a victory, but NY-23 will be up for grabs in less than one year from now (2010). Hopefully the GOP can do it right next year by listening to its conservative base rather than GOP party hacks.


19 posted on 11/03/2009 10:48:36 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: Hildy
THE BIG PICTURE. We keep saying that we’d rather have a D screw things up then an R. It’s only a year. We’ll take this seat back...And all the others. What a bunch of whiny babies...I’m shocked at FR. This was a huge night for us and some of you are just choosing to be miserable.

Not me, Hildy! I'm kind of down about Hoffman, but I AM looking at the big picture. The campaign for NY-23 2010 starts in less than one year... we'll get it back!

I'm thrilled by the McDonnell GOP win in VA (plus the Lt. Governor and Atty General) and absolutely stunned that Christie won in NJ. A political earthquake, as Sean Hannity has said. Overall a great night!

20 posted on 11/03/2009 10:52:37 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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