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To: John O
"And that's the problem. We have no proof that he was born in Hawaii. His grandma says he was born in Kenya."

His grandmother does not say he was born in Kenya. That is an urban legend.

A birth certificate is considered legal proof of place of birth. Obama has published one saying he was born in Hawaii, and there are contemporaneous birth announcements in the local papers.

"obama could make this whole issue go away if he would just publish open his records. The longer he fights releasing his real birth certificate the more he looks like a foreigner."

In fact, he could not. Not all the claims would be settled by producing more documents. The only documentation that matters is place of birth, and that document has already been produced. It hasn't mattered.

Also, he's not "fighting" releasing his birth certificate. When he was asked during the campaign, it was provided. All that's happening now is that lawyers are filing the normal procedural responses to lawsuits that they did not start. No suit has reached the stage of looking at evidence.

"All we are asking if for him to prove his eligibility something EVERY other President has done."

Have they? Has every other president done that? Really?

Please show me Bush's or Clinton's or Reagan's birth certificates.

The procedure that was followed in electing Obama was the same procedure that has been followed in electing every other president. Nothing different has happened here.

395 posted on 10/28/2009 12:09:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
A birth certificate is considered legal proof of place of birth. Obama has published one saying he was born in Hawaii,

No. He has published a certificate of live birt. Which does not establish place of birth. Why won't he just release his birth certficate which establishes where he was born?

and there are contemporaneous birth announcements in the local papers.

I've seen birth announcements in my local paper of children I know were born out of state. Those announcments do not establish place of birth

In fact, he could not. Not all the claims would be settled by producing more documents. The only documentation that matters is place of birth, and that document has already been produced. It hasn't mattered.

It's not been released.

Also, he's not "fighting" releasing his birth certificate.

Then why is he filing that the case be thrown out of court before it is even tried? Seems to be "fighting release" to me.

When he was asked during the campaign, it was provided. All that's happening now is that lawyers are filing the normal procedural responses to lawsuits that they did not start. No suit has reached the stage of looking at evidence.

The suit is about being able to look at the evidence.

Have they? Has every other president done that? Really?

Far as I know they have. Of course most of them had birth circumstances that were far less obscured than obama's were in the first place.

Please show me Bush's or Clinton's or Reagan's birth certificates.

Check their presidential libraries or the clerk of courts in their birthplaces. None of them are sealed.

396 posted on 10/28/2009 12:20:13 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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