No. He has published a certificate of live birt. Which does not establish place of birth. Why won't he just release his birth certficate which establishes where he was born?
and there are contemporaneous birth announcements in the local papers.
I've seen birth announcements in my local paper of children I know were born out of state. Those announcments do not establish place of birth
In fact, he could not. Not all the claims would be settled by producing more documents. The only documentation that matters is place of birth, and that document has already been produced. It hasn't mattered.
It's not been released.
Also, he's not "fighting" releasing his birth certificate.
Then why is he filing that the case be thrown out of court before it is even tried? Seems to be "fighting release" to me.
When he was asked during the campaign, it was provided. All that's happening now is that lawyers are filing the normal procedural responses to lawsuits that they did not start. No suit has reached the stage of looking at evidence.
The suit is about being able to look at the evidence.
Have they? Has every other president done that? Really?
Far as I know they have. Of course most of them had birth circumstances that were far less obscured than obama's were in the first place.
Please show me Bush's or Clinton's or Reagan's birth certificates.
Check their presidential libraries or the clerk of courts in their birthplaces. None of them are sealed.
Just verified. President Reagan’s certified copy of his birth certificate is at his presidential library.
George W. bush’s Birth certificate is held at the Texas State Archives being readided for research (so yes it will be available)
In fact it does. It says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
"Those announcments do not establish place of birth"
They were placed in the paper by the state agency that recorded the birth, which would only happen if the birth happened in the state.
"Then why is he filing that the case be thrown out of court before it is even tried? Seems to be "fighting release" to me."
No, it isn't the same as fighting release. Remember, as far as the Obama team is concerned, it already has been released. That some people won't accept that doesn't change anything.
If someone sues you, you have to respond. You are going to respond according to the proper procedure. The court first must decide issues of jurisdiction and standing, so that's what the filing are about. It's not Obama's lawyers that make those rules.
"The suit is about being able to look at the evidence."
That's not what the suits are about.
"Far as I know they have."
No prior president has been required to produce a birth certificate in order to serve. None have done so.
"Check their presidential libraries or the clerk of courts in their birthplaces. None of them are sealed."
What may be in their libraries after the fact is not the question. The question is about what they produced to prove they were eligible to be president in the first place.