TerriK INVESTIGATION: Foreshadowing (Donofrio)

Natural Born Citizen ^ | 9-29-09 | Leo Donofrio

[STARWISE]

Oh .. so you DO think it was an implicit confirmation ?
Whoa ..

[STARWISE]

Amen!

[MissTickly]

“Oh .. so you DO think it was an implicit confirmation ?”

Now that I understand UIPA, I realize that I asked about index data for a vital event.

One of my own theories is that some proof of an amendment was submitted and an index number was generated, recorded and the vital record was filed for reference with his ‘marked-up’ amended original birth certificate. Therefore, there are “vital records” on file in accordance with policy, etc...

I feel I got an affirmative answer hidden in a statement that was meant to distract us from that answer by including the NBC and ‘born in Hawaii’ stuff.

That statement, now that it’s public, is the key to leveraging the law in the public’s favor. They were sloppy. It was a knee jerk reaction as Leo point’s out.

Watch for Part III. Sounds like it will be tomorrow.

[STARWISE]

Knowing the history and principals involved,
it’s all perfectly possible, though I’m still
a bit confounded that her scripted response
apparently contained a subtle clue. Have to
carefully reread it.

And there could well be MORE than just one
amendment .. would not surprise me in the least.
I sure can visualize many of his/his mother’s
life events provoking that, just with what’s been
eeked out in the realm what we at least think we
actually know.

I feel we’re in the middle of a Columbo episode.
It’s an elaborate maze .. an alien designed
cornfield.

Not only is surefire and expert lawyering critical,
but the clever sleuthing of Sherlock Holmes and
Columbo must be in high gear ... and persistence.
That’s SO vital.

Leo and you sure have that ... perfect match ..
hang in there!

[fanfan]

Hawaii didn't deny possession of “amended” records for Obama. Which implies that they do have “amended” records for Obama.

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OIP STAFF ATTORNEY LINDEN JOESTING ISSUED MULTIPLE CONFIRMATIONS THAT THE DoH WAS REQUIRED TO INFORM TerriK IF THEY DID NOT MAINTAIN THE RECORDS SHE REQUESTED.
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But the DoH never said that amended records didn’t exist in their files. They did, however, deny access to those records and that means the records must be in their possession.
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Part 2 of the TerriK investigation report concludes with Joestling’s official OIP response to TerriK’s appeal:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2345143/posts?page=465#465

[STARWISE]

OK ... click!

Thanks .. ;)

[fanfan]

My pleasure, Starwise.

It’s a tangled web they weave, eh?

Thanks to Lucy and Nully for the pings.

[BP2]

The timing of Hawaii Department of Health Director Chiyome Fukino’s July 27, 2009 Press Release appears suspiciously related to TerriK’s initial questioning of DoH Communications Director Janice Okubo – commenced earlier that day at 7:20 AM EDT (1:20 AM in Hawaii) – many hours before the infamous press release by Fukino was made public.

My, oh, my – we may have modus operandi.

Looking at the dates of TerriK’s pre-release of Fukino's written statement (July 27) and the PUBLIC release of Fukino’s written statement (July 28) seems to indicate a COORDINATED effort by the Hawaii Department of Health and Hawaii Congressmen in an attempt to “shut down” further questions of Obama’s eligibility.

As you may recall, there was a non-binding Resolution with the passage of H.RES.593 (House timeline on July 27) and S.RES.225 (Senate timeline on July 28) recognizing Hawaii’s 50th Anniversary as a US state. Also in the Resolution, among other things, was a clause that stated “the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.” (House version text).

The Resolution was introduced in the Senate by Hawaii Sen. Daniel Inouye, and was originated in the House by long-time Obama friend Hawaii Rep. Neil Abercrombie, about a month earlier.

Several months earlier, on Jan. 24, Abercrombie also read a letter from newly-inaugurated Obama congratulating Kapi’olani Medical Center on their 100th anniversary, and pinning the hospital as the place of Obama’s birth.

It certainly seems that Hawaii Department of Health Director Fukino – with premeditation – wrote her draft News Release before the final passage of the Resolution, so that her “natural born citizen” proclamation would coincide with Congress’ non-binding Resolution proclaiming that “Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”

Further, it would seem that to answer TerriK's UIPA request, Fukino sent a draft of her planned News Release to TerriK on July 27, before the Senate passed the Resolution on July 28 that would give Fukino the political cover to formally place her final draft of the same News Release on Hawaii's state website on July 28. Oops!

Coordination?
Collusion?
Corruption?
Conspiracy?

We’ll have to see what else Leo Donofrio and TerriK have to share, but it sure seems that Obama is getting a lot of special help from Hawaii Department of Health officials who should be neutral in such political matters.

[STARWISE]

Oh boy ... you’re a wonder. TOTALLY plausible!

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

I’ll go with FReeper Polarik ...

[Fred Nerks]

Coordination?
Collusion?
Corruption?
Conspiracy?

Yep. Abercrombie tied himself in knots with the first lie, and all else that follows is just a continuation.

Great work!

[hoosiermama]

Up Here, Fell asleep early in chair....hate those neck aches....Had a thought after reading thread: Are BC amended when citizenship is lost or if he became naturalized after the Indonesian adoption?

[BP2]

See, I can't see how a director of a state Dept of Health office could possibly know of an obscure non-binding Resolution in Washington DC that has no bearing on a health issue. Someone who intimately knew the Resolution was coordinating with her on this, and/or vice versa.

When the Resolution was introduced JUNE 26 in the House, it said, “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii”

When the final draft of the same Resolution was brought up for vote on July 27, it said, “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961”

That language was specifically modified for a purpose by it's Hawaiian authors.

Furthermore, as TerryK’s copy of the news release shows, the document was created on 7-27-09 at 5:21:27 pm HST on janice.okubo’s computer using Microsoft Word. The House portion of the Resolution was not passed until 7/27/2009 6:55 pm EST; the Senate (and final) Resolution passed sometime the next morning - with Fukino’s final statement modified on 7-28-09 8:19:21 am HST.

Fukino for the first time specifically uses the phrase “natural born American citizen,” paraphrasing - in her mind at least - the same language that's in the non-binding Resolution.

I think Fukino wanted something to quell the ever-tenacious TerriK, so she hastily emailed the statement she had been preparing to release to coincide with the final passage of the Resolution out of the Senate.

TerriK’s persistence forced Fukino to show her cards early to offer what Fukino felt was a “legitimate” denial of TerriK’s UIPA’s request.

[BP2]

> Are BC amended when citizenship is lost or if he became naturalized after the Indonesian adoption?

From my understanding of the Hawaiian statutes, it would likely be as a result of a name change from an adoption or divorce than a change of citizenship status (unless citizenship was re-established later via the Hawaii Family Court).

In the above situations, those records - including the original BC - might be sealed with the Hawaii Family Court.

[hoosiermama]

Thanks BC....didn’t think anyone else would be up at this time of the night....

[STARWISE]

Could’ve gotten spooked for sure. And putting
ourselves in their place, maybe it had been in
the planning for awhile that it would be acknowledged
publicly by 0, as he was likely asked. And, of
course, they’re very familiar with all the hospitals.

Because there was going to be publicity of it
in Congress, maybe at DOH there was some
red alert, because they knew this was going to
occur and there would be press coverage, putting
HI in the spotlight and they wanted to keep their
department as low key and as out of the spotlight
and uncontroversial as possible and not detract
from his glorious WH letter stating the alleged
place of his birth, or incur his wrath.

Of course, there’s always the possibility that
the heat’s just getting too hot, and they’re
being really pushed.... from all sides.

[Beckwith]

Abercrombie tied himself in knots with the first lie, and all else that follows is just a continuation.

As far as I know, Abercrombie is the only person on earth who claims to have seen Obama Sr. and Anna together.

Do you have any information to the contrary?

[Fred Nerks]

Do you have any information to the contrary?

No, I do not, and lawd knows I've looked!

If Obama Sr's relationship with Stanley Ann was going to be mentioned anywhere, one would think it would be here:

CAMBODIANA WEBSITE. LINK

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Our special and historic relationship with Senator Barack Obama's father during our university days: as preceived by some of his friends

Of particular interest is the letter signed by Naranhkiri Tith Ph.D

[ExTexasRedhead]

Always a witness to every massacre. Eventually, an American patriot with steel gonads will expose the nest of Sewer RATs that have plotted to destroy America.

[freekitty]

Obama will be exposed.