Posted on 09/19/2009 7:19:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
In a little noticed interview with the Daily Beast (presumably little noticed because serious people don't read the Daily Beast), Zbigniew Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace:
DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?
Brzezinski: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?
DB: What if they fly over anyway?
Brzezinski: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse.
Contrary to Brezinski's half-hearted disclaimer that no one wishes for such an outcome, there are plenty on the left who would delight in a pitched battle between the United States and Israel. Democrats in Congress routinely support resolutions affirming Israel's right to take whatever steps it deems necessary to assure its own national defense. And Obama has at least paid lip service to the concept. But hostility to Israel among the rank and file is very real on the left -- and among "realists."
So conjure the image -- the Obama administration sending U.S. aircraft up to protect Iran's airspace and it's nuclear installations from an attack by a democracy that is one of America's closest allies. Unfortunately, this may not be so hard to imagine in Israel, where the number of people who believe Obama is pro-Israel is at just 4 percent -- and falling. And given Obama's (literally) submissive posture to the Saudis, his indulgence of the Iranians, and his simultaneously hard-line approach to Israel, it seems even some of Obama's supporters can savor the possibility of a "reverse Liberty."
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What ridiculous conjecture that such an order would be given.
This is coming from a poster who is of part Polish heritage, but AMERICAN first, what I have read is SHAMEFUL and EMBARESHING.
Off-topic, I just want to say the Gators did a great job yesterday in beating the Volunteers.
You are right.
Hey, everyone....
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I went there cause he seemed to really have an understanding of history.
Ergo, it was reasonable to assume the "they" you referred to were Mika and Joe, not Zbig and Mika.
The confusion would occur with French, German, Hebrew, Arabic, English or Chinese ~ it's the old "clarity" buggaboo.
Now, concerning a daughter coming to the defense of her father, I think we need to refer to some other sources:
"Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee," Exodus 20:12. "Honor thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee," Deuteronomy 5:16. "Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father . . . ," Leviticus 19:3. "Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honor thy father and thy mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord," Ephesians 6:1-4. "Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged," Colossians 3:20-21. "My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother," Proverbs 1:8. "A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish man despiseth his mother," Proverbs 15:20. "Children�s children are the crown of old men; and the glory of children are their fathers," and, "A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him," Proverbs 17:6, 25. "A foolish son is the calamity of his father," and, "He that wasteth his father, and chaseth away his mother, is a son that causeth shame, and bringeth reproach," Proverbs 19:13, 26. "Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old," Proverbs 23:22. "Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul," Proverbs 29:17. "For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth," Hebrews 12:6.
Can't think of any others at the moment, but if she errs in doing so, I think you'd best take the problem to a Higher Authority.
Remember that the military in this country is to first and formost protect and defend the Consitution.
This would be a Zelaya moment for the -9bama*.
* - Ras has already been posted
And his daughter is now on with Joe Scarboro on what is vying to be the worst talk show billed as conservative that isn’t.
Perhaps not. There are Jews who are leftists. That ideology supercedes being Jewish.
RE US pilots not flying against Israel. Do you mean the US pilots would refuse to obey the order, or their commanders would not give the order? Please explain.
Thirty years ago when he was a Columbia University,This is the Zbigniew Brzezinski we have all come to know.
the students disagreed with what he was stating,
Brzezinski wanted the students taken outside and shot.
Both. Gates wouldn’t allow the order to be given, and US pilots - most at least - would simple “fail to acquire lock” in the air if it was. (”They must have some new stealth technology, I could see them but just couldn’t get tone!”)
I hope you are right.
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Thanks for the ping!
1. There is speculation that Zbig was O’s prof at Columbia.
Here’s the first search link that comes up...
http://www.rense.com/general80/s0pa.htm
2. There was a leak to the UK Times that the Saudis have authorized the Israelis to use their airspace to hit Iran thus avoiding violation of the sovereign Iraqi airspace.
Link:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6638568.ece
These are the guys who believe in selling our allies down the river for some illusionary grand game of chess-—that has led to an ascendancy of Islam abd a descendancy of this nation.
If so, another Communist training 0bama. Although I believe he is really Frank Marshall Davis Jr. If 0bama released his transcripts, we would know.
I figure the pilots would go up, following the order to the letter, but somehow... just not be able to find the Israeli jets.
Or that their targeting systems developed a malfunction... or that the clamps wouldn’t release the missiles, or something.
I believe that they will use missiles and not planes for any strike on Iran..
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