Posted on 09/08/2009 1:24:37 PM PDT by pissant
Reports from Gary are starting...He is about 25th in line out of approximately 300 people waiting to get into the courtroom. Almost all spectators are anti-Obama.
Orly Taitz arrived just a few moments ago and the throng applauded.
Lucas Smith is also present. Smith has claimed the Obama birth certificate he has shown on the Internet as real. That remains to be seen. However it is interesting he has joined the proceedings.
Steve
8.39 am pst 9/8/09
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When court is in session cell phones and camera's will be banned so we will experience a news blackout.
This hearing may last from 30 minutes to a couple of hours. Taitz apparently wishes to include Lucas Smith so that an investigation of his proffered document can be be forensically examined and by which means he came by it.
Justice Carter is expected to throw out the last minute attempt Motion to Dismiss submitted by Obama's counsel late in the afternoon this past Friday. Taitz is also hoping for court approval to depose Sec State Clinton and Sec Defense Gates. Justice Carter may also rule for discovery. This is what we are hoping for, because once discovery is ordered the case is over. Obama would then have to unseal his records and produce.
Steve
9.11 am pst 9/8/09
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Gary also mentioned there was no visible media turnout for this hearing as in no SatCam Uplink Trucks. The LA Fox Channel was expected to report on this hearing. Perhaps they are awaiting a "courthouse steps" exit interview from the pertinent parties.
Back to you Gary.....
Steve
9.26 am pst 9/8/09
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Justice Carter noting the packed courtroom and overflow crowd waiting in the hallways has ordered a change to a larger courtroom and has taken a 2 hour recess to accommodate the transfer of officers of the court and spectators.
Steve
10.02 am pst 9/8/09
In the meantime read some articles watch our "Burning Down The House" video (rate it I'm curious:)
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As far as crowd demographics the estimated age range is 18 to 80
70% Men 30% Women
age 60+ seems to be the majority. About the same mix as an August Town Hall crowd.
Orly Taitz appeared relaxed-- calm cool and collected.
More as I receive it.............
Steve
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Two kidneys=’wee wee’d’
Ahh, the U.S. Marshall in the courtroom said that there were to be no cameras, all cell phones must be turned off. If your cell phone sounds off, you are out-of-the-courtroom.
It was sort of humorous when Judge Carter told Dr. Taitz and Mr. Kreep to pull their chairs closer to each other when he ordered that they shall begin working together.
This after a 15-minute recess for which the Judge instructed them both to go outside the courtroom and see if they could come to an agreement to work together, as Judge Carter strongly hinted that he would probably wind up combining their separate cases anyway.
Judge Carter would not be amenable to allowing into today’s hearing a deposition from the person who alleges that he obtained a Kenyan BC, because of the defense not getting prior notice. I am no legal eagle but it appeared that the judge would be willing to consider over the course of this week to decide if he would allow such deposition to occur sooner rather than later.
Anyone else at the hearing who might correct me if I have misinterpreted.
It's just barely long enough to arrange an orderly transfer of power.
One last Christmas (an important holiday in the Obama household), perhaps a full year in office before he does "the honorable thing".
Or has it done for him...
One could also argue that is a load of bovine excrement.
Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort
One does not need to *declare* war, for someone to levy war, the Japanese did it on Dec. 8, 1941 (their time) and that state of war pre-existed Congress declaration. (Last line of Roosevelt's speech to Congress, "I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December seventh, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire."
I don't think the founders figured anyone would perpetuate a fraud against the people of the magnitude of being ineligible to the Office of President, yet running for and occuppying the office anyway. Probably fraud is the worse will be able to hit him with. I propose he be sent "home" to Hawaii to serve his sentence. Oh not on Ohau, Hawaii, Maui, or other well known islands. No, I propose Kaula, or failing that, Kaho`olawae, or Niihau. Although If not Kaula, then maybe the not too far away Palymra Atoll , before any of the other Hawaiian islands. Perhaps even East Island of the Midway Islands/Atoll. At least he'd have the goonies to keep him company. Maybe he could organize their community.
Actually, Congress did declare war in the days following 9/11.
There is no Constitutionally mandated language or turn of phrase required to declare war.
That's why 0bama had to declare it a non-war.
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Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, were restored as plaintiffs. That helps to resolve some of the "standing" issues that have plague other cases -- they've been directly harmed by Mr Soetoro. |
We already do.
I'm more interested in how much it will take to get the typical former 0bama voter to see it. (The active supporters never will, no matter what)...
thanks for the info.
You can count on the fact that she has certified copies of his passport, who financed him getting there and back, and paid his expenses. In case something happens to him, or her.
it will all be part of the record. The Obamazots know that too, now...It will stand on its merits. Discovery, when it goes to trial has to be shared with both sides. So each will know what the other has, in order to form a defense. So it has to be part of the record...
My gleaning from “Barnaby Jones”
Thanks for the ping.
If he fights it, we know he’s a usurper.
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And what’s he been doing up til now?
As you say.
Well yes, and of course our presidential nominee remains one of the plaintiffs.
If these three don’t have standing, no one does.
As always, the people themselves are the last defense against lawlessness and tyranny.
One other thing few think about: If Obama was never a citizen, he couldn’t lawfully serve in the U.S. Senate. The IL Senate seat would have belonged to the qualified individual who received the most legitimate votes in the 2004 election. That person was Alan Keyes.
So, the standing issue is even broader than the fact that the good Doctor was on our presidential ballot line in CA in 2008.
I'm not sure what DoJ attorney(s) they had working on their MTD. But I can assure you now, given the Judge's comments (if accurate), they will call in the 'big dogs' and muster every dirty trick they can.
This is serious now. Barry hasn't spent all that money for the hell of it.
Congress did not declare war following 9/11. Bush called it a War on Terror. The entire operation has been financed under the War Powers Act, and has been refinanced every 90 days by congress and the senate.
But I am intrigued, can you prove that they did? I searched it and could not find an occurance.
Obama called it a non-war because it was again finance under the War Powers Act and never a declared war.
Hmmmm. Dunno if I can. FR's archives drop dead at 10/11/01.
Let me see what I can find....
Being right handed, and with a right master eye, I especially need to preserve my right index finger's tip.
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