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Freeper ARRESTED for Asserting his RIGHTS!!!!!
Vanity ^ | 8/20/09 | Political Merc

Posted on 08/20/2009 7:25:12 AM PDT by politicalmerc

Excuse the vanity but you guys MUST hear this. As you know if you have read any of my posts, I use to be an attorney. Well, my friendly local police department just made a HUGE MISTAKE and I can assure you they will pay for it. I post it here, not for sympathy but to show just how eroded our rights have become.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arrest; badcopnodonut; donttreadonme; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; jbts; law; leo; liberalism; liberty; lping; police; policestate; rapeofliberty; sniff; sniff22
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To: jiminycricket000

I believe poster said he has a copy of the tape.


161 posted on 08/20/2009 8:36:08 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Star Traveler

QUITE SO.

However,

Those days are over . . . at least until Armageddon is past.


162 posted on 08/20/2009 8:36:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: politicalmerc

If I were you, I would want to know who leveled these charges against you.

Do you know? Can you find out?


163 posted on 08/20/2009 8:36:33 AM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: politicalmerc

Boy, sure sounds like the police were overstepping their bounds. Interesting thread . Good advice for any one,on what to do, should they encounter a similar situation.


164 posted on 08/20/2009 8:36:34 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you aware of this one?

AND..., if there was *ever a time* for FReepers (and also Christians) to be aware of *all their rights* under the Constitution, it would be now. We should have “tutorials” on how to protect one’s rights (and also, some FReepers ought to be instructed on how these same rights apply to “criminals”, too... actually)....

But, especially, they apply to us... and maybe right now...


165 posted on 08/20/2009 8:37:00 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: AppyPappy

Interesting - my elderly neighbor called for medics a couple of weeks ago, and the police walked around her house peering in all the widows. Eventually, they broke in.

Now I understand. Tough situation.


166 posted on 08/20/2009 8:37:04 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: politicalmerc

I’ve read so many stories of how courts have thrown out claims with the “acted in good faith” decision ... example is the Denver police - in over 20 years of this sort of thing no Denver cop was ever convicted ... it happens, I’m just saying ....


167 posted on 08/20/2009 8:37:09 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NC28203

Ouch!


168 posted on 08/20/2009 8:37:48 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: politicalmerc

I admire you for your stand on the issue.

Whithout an arrest warrant or a search warrant, I wonder why they chose to show up at your doorstep, in force, rather than calling you and asking you to come down to the police station. It sounds to me like this was a personal issue and not a legal issue.

Clearly an abuse of power.


169 posted on 08/20/2009 8:37:53 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Star Traveler
I contend that even if he did steal the money, and he was a confirmed and convicted criminal, five times in the past — and it’s sitting in a shoebox in his bedroom, that they still need a search warrant... :-)

Absolutely. Any evidence found would certainly be difficult to be admissible in court without having a search warrant.

I would like to hear the police explanation for having no search or arrest warrant when they were questioning a suspect at their home for a possible complaint of theft, and then they enter the home and arrest the occupants for obstruction of justice. Based on the story so far, the Lt. didn't have a satisfactory answer ("Well, Sir, the officers were there investigating a complaint. You could have just cooperated and made everything much easier on everyone.").

It looks like a Fourth Amendment case: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

170 posted on 08/20/2009 8:38:19 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Star Traveler

Great video.

Talking to the Police by Professor James Duane
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8167533318153586646&hl=en

ALSO..., in that lecture is a police investigator on why one should *never* talk to the police — even “innocent people”...

“George Bruch from the Virginia Beach police department responds to Professor James Duane’s presentation on why innocent people should never talk to the police.”


171 posted on 08/20/2009 8:38:31 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: politicalmerc

18 usc 242
DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW
Summary:
Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/242fin.php


172 posted on 08/20/2009 8:40:02 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: politicalmerc

Outrageous! I admire your readiness for this situation. As a real woman, I always admire real men who do what needs to be done. I can’t believe they’d manhandle a mother and child,,,oh wait I can believe it. That makes me the most angry, bruising a mother and endangering a baby. I hope you take those union thugs for all that unprofessional, unConstitutional PD is worth. Best of luck in your fight for justice!


173 posted on 08/20/2009 8:40:09 AM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("I am Sarah Palin." and "I am the NRA.")
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To: politicalmerc; markomalley

>>>First, cops rarely ask overt questions. You have to find out what they are there for first. Secondly, I don’t care if you are JESUS, you shouldn’t talk to them until you find out as much as you can. Third, YOU STILL SHOULDN’T TALK without an attorney present.

On that note, this YouTube vid is required viewing for anyone remotely interested in why what you say here is true. And especially for anyone who questions what you say.

Don’t Talk to Cops, Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

Mr. James Duane, a professor at Regent Law School and a former defense attorney, tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik


174 posted on 08/20/2009 8:45:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: politicalmerc
Expect more of this to happen once Obama's Hitler youth/Gestapo comes into action... Kiss the 4th 5th and 6th amendments goodbye along with the 1st 2nd and the rest.

Liberals are against one amendment of the constitution they're against all of them. Good luck suing those pigs for what happened.

175 posted on 08/20/2009 8:45:29 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: AppyPappy

Interesting.

Practically, liberty does have its risks. As in “swim at your own risk.” The goverment can keep you from drowning, but only by keeping you from swimming.

I am frightened by the number of Americans who seem willing to exchange individual liberty for government “security.”

They seem to think the government can manage their lives better than they can themselves.

In my view, these type of individuals are not “fit” citizens for a free society.


176 posted on 08/20/2009 8:46:19 AM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: politicalmerc

HAA! GMTA!


177 posted on 08/20/2009 8:48:41 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: markomalley
Where exactly do YOU draw the line, saying "it's okay to violate a person's Constitutional rights if"... Please clarify.

According to your post, you're saying he should have just rolled over when the police accused him, illegally entered his home, and roughed up his wife and child based on someone's report to their office(without proof!) Think about that again. Shall I trump up some charges and report you for something? Let's see what you think about Constitutional rights when they show up at your door, bust into your home, and push your family around.

Here's the deal: EVEN IF HE DID IT, (he told us he was falsely accused and all charges were dropped) he STILL HAS HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS and was to be presumed INNOCENT. He absolutely has the right to refuse to speak without an attorney and refuse entry into his home without a warrant. The whole "if he has nothing to hide he'd comply" crap is just that - CRAP. TECHNICALLY, he was right and they were completely out of line.

178 posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:30 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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To: ThreeYearLurker
Did they teach you to spell Sargeant in law school?

S--E--R--G--E--A--N--T

179 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:11 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: bassfishing

They should be, but they are not. So, absent the law working, civil suits are the means to getting the polidiots’ attention.


180 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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