Posted on 08/09/2009 6:56:23 PM PDT by RebelYell1990
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
Back on the same day that John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential candidate I started investigating Palin's past on illegal immigration. I invited others to send in anything they found. There was nothing on the record. Many did write in and said that Laura Ingraham said that one time she was talking to Palin and she said she was against amnesty. That was the only statement anywhere that could be found.
Now we know that she is against amnesty, all the while she is for it with a "pathway to citizenship".
You see this is what is wrong with these people. They think they can be on both sides of the issue at once and that simply isn't possible. You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
People have bashed me for questioning "the Palin". They wrote in to say that obviously she is against illegal immigration. This was all wishful thinking and like so many other issues that the politicians have avoided, until they take a clear stance don't assume anything (and even then, if they're only saying it look at their record).
Sarah Palin is in lock-step with John McCain when it comes to amnesty for illegal aliens. Her answers are almost indistinguishable from McCain's, Obama's or even the most pro-illegal alien congressman in the house, Luis Gutierrez, for that matter.
Read it and weep.
Univision
Univision: Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska? Sarah Palin: I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.
Univision: As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported? Sarah Palin: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
Univision: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? Sarah Palin: No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.
Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants? Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
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Univision: What is your strategy? How are you planning to win the latino vote? Sarah Palin: I will tell you, I wish that there were more hours in the day so that we can get out there and to more of the communities with such the strong Latino vote that is out there and really tell them that we desire to work for them. We are asking them to hire us and let us work for them.
Sickening we can't find a real leader in this country who cares about Americans first.
I have wanted to give her time to flesh out her policies and touch up her presentations a bit. I still think that in the end she is going to combust. I had high hopes for her, but I just don’t see those hopes coming to fruition.
I know a lot of folks love her here. I’m just trying to project what her long term viability will be, and I do have some grave concerns along those lines.
She made some unfortunate comments during the campaign last year regarding illegals, and what should be done with them.
At the time I thought, oh brother, not another one. I had hoped it was just the McCain influence.
Our leaders in Washington are supposedly the best and the brightest.
Either they are aware of this........which leads one to assume an agenda beyond what’s reported or these so called best and the brightest are incredibly ignorant.
My vote - there’s an agenda.
Why else would the republican party hand control over to the democrats/liberals........forever!
I know a lot of folks love her here. Im just trying to project what her long term viability will be, and I do have some grave concerns along those lines.
Have to agree with you, DoughtyOne. Hope that you don't take too much grief for your post.
Yes I am Blaming them for sitting this out or casting a “Symbolic” vote for a third party Never can win! I stood in line and voted for the smaller of the two turds
Oh, I get it... I’m the only person in America who believes this. Sheesh. Go back to DU.
“You obviously discussing the law but I have been since my original post in reply #18. To quote: “ICE wouldn’t have to physically round up all of them if our existing immigration laws were strictly enforced. Many would leave the country voluntarily in order to avoid being caught.” ICE is the law enforcement arm for immigration. You can try to spin it anyway you want but there could be no misunderstanding my remark any other way than pertaining to enforcing current immigration laws.”
We were discussing logistics, i.e. how do you “round up” hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people. Your argument is that you don’t, you simply enforce current law and most will run away. I disagree with the “most will run away” part, not the “enforce the current laws” part.
“The fact you consider Federal Immigration laws as excessive or unessential only makes your defense of granting amnesty to people who knowingly and willingly violate are laws just by being in the U.S. that much more indefensible.”
Whoa, hang on there cowboy, I have made no such assertions on this thread or any other. I believe that you enforce the law reasonably and systematically against EMPLOYERS.
My assumption about logistics is that your assumption is overly simplistic.
GOV. SARAH PALIN: Weve got to secure the borders, and we cant be considering this broad range of amnesty that some would want. Weve got to secure the borders and prove to the American people that the federal government is serious about this, and its got to be a comprehensive approach to dealing with the immigration challenge that we have securing the borders, working with our border governors and mayors. Theyre there on the front lines, understanding what some of the solutions can be, if only they have an administration who will work with them.
And Sarah gave that interview when she was McCain's running mate! However, those that use negative news accounts to convey their "well-meaning concern" for Sarah's policy stands, and say they are looking out for the best interest of conservatives will never mention Sarah as practically the only one in the GOP who publicly takes on Obama directly regarding his policies. Nope, they would rather go and find some old biased interview so they can cry about being misled or confused about Palin's political stands.
They have no interest in finding out the facts, nor are they interested in finding out about what she really thinks or what she stands for. Their goal is to use irrelevant interviews to bring her down. Man, at this rate we should be seeing big titles anytime now for, "Sarah Palin's dreadful interview with Katie Couric" and the following comment:
Hey folks, watch the interview. I'm so concerned about Sarah's ignorance and lack of knowledge that we need to spread the word on this site. I am concerned for America and support Conservatism and Constitutionalism in Government as the rest of us on this site do. And as Americans first and Conservatives second we must stand against any and all politicians who say on public TV that they can see Russia from their home well, she actually said, "Russia, is our next-door neighbor, and they are right next to our state." But never mind, everyone believes Tina Fey's memorable words (that she can see Russia from her home) as coming from Sarah's mouth, and that's all to it, folks.So let's get moving and stop this woman from even trying to be a candidate.
Methinks that you are an operative or agitator trying to stir up trouble in favor of some other GOP hack at Sarah Palin's expense, or worse a sleeper lib troll.
This is worth repeating. And I totally agree with that statement, btw.
I am talking about the nurtcases that dream she will win white house in a landslide, win the WOT turning the Middle East to democracies, cut taxes, balance the budget , drill for oil, overturn Roe and embryonic stem cell research and bring back manuafacturing and win re-election in a 49 state landslide,
OH yes, her resigning Alaska after 2+ years is a plus for president because we want someone with NO experience (one worshiper recently told me not kidding)
Those were Rep Lynn’s words. IF she was anti amnesty, she wouldn’t have allowed illegals to get driver’s licenses in her state, one of the only 11 states in the union to give them out. If she was opposed to illegal immigration, she would have cracked down on sanctuary cities, she didn’t. It seems her words, when she says she supports a pathway to citizenship for illegals, and opposes deportation, that her actions match her words.
No difference. She quoted them in approval.
No one mentioned cattle cars to the border (and your association of such is obviously intended to invoke pictures of innocents being shipped to camps and ovens, which is an association I find offensive).
Illegals have shown they hold our country and its laws in contempt. They have destroyed pretty much every place they have reached critical mass (I was born and raised in Souther California, so I know what I’m talking about). The crimes, the filth, the hatred of America and iots citizens that the illegals embrace make them more than undesirable. They should return to their countries of origin and play by the rules and apply to come to America like my mother did. Or, are the illegals more valuable or more special than my mother, that they should be able to break our laws and then be rewarded? On that note, I want to know what laws I can break, that not only will I not be punished for breaking, but will be rewarded for breaking, as well. Please, tell me.
Palin did support the platform, although there were a few times she took the lead and shortly there after McCain came out and said the opposite. For instance the Sept. “bailout”. Palin was making comments for ownership of the problem by those who created it. McCain made a run back to Washington and stopped the campaign, then the fool backed and signed the urgent bill. My guess was if McCain would have towed Palin’s line and not signed the first bail out bill the election may have been a different result.
Palin’s potential run for President will look and sound quite different than McCain/Palin. Although the crowds will be there, most likely they will be much bigger. The Dem operatives know this and are doing everything they can think of to destroy her. Point is the more they come after her the more the support for her grows.
If she approved, she would have supported other house bills while she was governor to disallow illegals to get driver’s licenses, she would have cracked down on sanctuary cities, and she wouldn’t say she opposes deportation and a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Sorry, I missed the date of the article, she needs to come out and state what HER position is.
She already has, and it is posted on her official FaceBook page. It is not her responsibility to send you a personal update. And it is not your right to pretend to know what she thinks without reading what she has written.
Then post the position.
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