Posted on 07/19/2009 11:24:30 AM PDT by pissant
The controversy over President Barack Obama continues with an interesting twist: Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers (ret.) and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff may joined the litigation. On July 8th, Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8th in federal court demanding conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his claim that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States. He argued that, since Obama cannot serve as president of the United States, he cannot order him to deploy as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
What is curious is the decision by the military to suddenly revoke the deployment orders of Cook. That served to fuel the growing movement spreading this rumor. The government is now claiming that the lawsuit is “moot” since Cook doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan. Cook in turn has added a claim to this lawsuit that he was retaliated against for his lawsuit after he was terminated at Simtech Inc., a Department of Defense contractor.
The addition of a retired major general and active colonel will have more of a promotional and legal benefit for these litigants. It was an unfortunate decision to revoke these orders. The Administration should have fought the lawsuit on the merits rather than try to moot the matter. The optics are perfect for those alleging a grand conspiracy to conceal Obama’s birth certificate (which has been viewed as third parties) and hide his alleged foreign born status.
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We must keep our foot on their throats.
Exactly. The only way the news media can debunk this question is to thoroughly investigate it. The issue is working its way into the 5 o'clock news. Eventually the question will pop up at an Obama news conference.
The “here” in the last sentence goes here:
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/778482.html
WND has brought it up to spokeshermaphrodite Gibblets.
If Jonathan Turley really cared about the American people, wouldn’t he encourage Obama to simply submit the document as evidence into one of these many court proceedings and end the matter once and for all?
When John McCain was challenged on his birth status, he simply submitted his birth certificate into the court proceeding.
The president is our highest elected public servant. Shouldn’t we expect to hold our highest public servant to a reasonable standard of openness, and come clean on this matter rather than fight it on procedural technicalities?
Professor Turley, don’t the American people deserve better than a president who fights this issue on procedural technicalities?
And if Professor Turley is a democrat, doesn’t it bother him that Obama’s election fund, which was raised from the American people (supposedly), is being used to pay lawyers to fight having to submit his birth certificate in court proceedings? With the dozens of legal proceedings in multiple jurisdictions from numerous plaintiffs arguing different legal theories (Berg, Keyes, Cook, etc.) I am sure Professor Turley appreciates the magnitude of the attorneys’ fees and expenses that are being spent to fight this matter.
Moot? HA! They're scared out of their minds. They WISH it to be moot, but it isn't.
The media is currently only in Phase 2 of this issue.
Phase 1 - Completely ignore it and bury data if necessary.
Phase 2 - When it does get out, mock and destroy the main accuser.
Phase 3 - Rationalize to the people that even if guilty it isn’t that bad.
Phase 4 - The house of cards crumbles.
Phase 5 - The media claims to be have been investigating this all along.
some snips from a different thread:
It’s not all about his birthplace. It’s about his eligibility for the Presidency under the Constitution. His father was not even a resident alien in the United States; he was a British citizen of the colony of Kenya. That is pertinent, and has a great deal of bearing on the matter, moreso perhaps than where Barack Obama was born.
That is why so much time and effort, and such smokescreening, to keep people thinking it’s all about a birth certificate. It’s not all about a birth certificate. He’s got an obvious problem, as far as being natural born as required, a problem that is a matter of public record, available for all to see. Concealing his birth certificate could very well be masterful sleight of hand, to take focus off of this obvious problem.
But, no President in my lifetime has been immune to rancorous calls for disclosure, of medical records, of college transcripts, you name it. Obama does not get a pass. Keep the pressure up, certainly. Just don’t misconstrue this as the be-all and end-all of determining his eligibility. Because, it’s not.
The ‘hidden long form’, college records, college finance records, college application, selective service records, travel documents (passport used for travel during his college years), application for the Illinois Bar, his entire Illinois State Senate records, peripheral relationships regarding the unsolved murder of the TUCC choir director, etc.
The pertinent aspect of Minor v. Happersett, which narrows the parameters of “natural born citizen:”
Whoever, then, was one of the people of either of these states when the Constitution of the United States was adopted became ipso facto a citizen — a member of the nation created by its adoption. He was one of the persons associating together to form the nation, and was consequently one of its original citizens. As to this there has never been a doubt. Disputes have arisen as to whether or not certain persons or certain classes of persons were part of the people at the time, but never as to their citizenship if they were.
Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that
“No person except a natural-born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President,”
and that Congress shall have power “to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.” Thus, new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization.
the above is snips from posts 16, 28 and 30 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2296013/posts?page=16#16
Like that tagline, could not agree more.
I believe the accepted term is “metrosexual” but yours is better.
Absolutely why the highest office in America must have the person in it of the highest qualification of being an American citizen, sorry to be racist in any way shape or size but color or gender does not matter, what matters is the LOYALTY to America.
A muslim has NO loyalty to America.
An Arab has NO loyalty to America.
A person no matter how liked, no matter how skilled, no matter what ethnic or gender background cannot simply be allowed to take the position of POTUS unless that person is absolutely to the letter of the law stated by our revered document the Constitution to be within its requirements.
Obama is proving on nearly an hourly basis what happens when that requirement is overlooked. Our forefathers knew what would happen when they built our America oh so many years ago, they envisioned that America should ALWAYS have an AMERICAN leading it, all others need not apply, period, end of story.
Probably in some KGB planning room in the Kremlin.../sarc>
Cheers!
Probably in some KGB planning room in the Kremlin.../sarc>
Although he was hatched, your geneology is wrong. His round-heeled slut hippy mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, copulated with a Black Mamba while visiting Kenya and, nine months later, shat the toxic egg that would become the Illegal Alien out onto a rock in the hot, Kenyan sun. The KGB, however, probably arranged their first date.
Where is this “Conscientious Objector” stuff coming from? As I understand it, the major was asking for a ‘clarification’ of his orders from the Army and a stay until he got it.
Of course it’s not about the piece of paper. He’s been ineligible since the day he was conceived. That right there should have ended any and all question.
I’m wondering since he was adopted, that every time he signs the name Obama if he is committing a crime.
“The optics are perfect for those alleging a grand conspiracy to conceal Obama’s birth certificate…”
Do not overlook the setup-taking place with the insertion of the coded term “conspiracy,” as usual and has been practiced in yellow journalism: ignore the facts, deconstruct and disseminate your misinformation.
The fact is, “there are real efforts to not only hide the origins of this usurper, but the critical truths, by those in and out of government!’
The problem is that there seems to be a complete shut down of responsibility, if not down right negligence by those elected and expected to represent the public trust…and should pay for it the old fashioned way…you decide.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall if all the troops currently stationed in Afghanistan were to sign on a class action suit.
I have been saying for some time now, its not the Birth Certificate that is the most relevant, its his IMMIGRATION status!
Exactly. I've read two articles here today with that phrase. Apparently they're getting their news bites from the same source.
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