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problem with a third party right now is that the Dems have too big a chunk of the electorate

this is way different than late 1850s before 1860 election

and 1860 was really a four way race with two major and two lesser but substantial players

Lincoln (not an abolitionist btw and an alternative to the Radicals but platform was very contra southern interest and not just slavery) 39.8%

Breckenridge (pro-slavery KY southern Dem) 19%

Bell( former Whig-Know Nothing compromiser)13%

Douglas( northern Dem pragmatist)30%

a veritable soup and as you can see had Breckenridge and Bell not run then Lincoln would have lost and the rest is history

Sarah won't pull any Dems away to speak of unless she liberalizes though she can motivate more lazy peckerwoods to get off their votes to vote

hence I'd see 45 percent leftists at a minimum

and that other being split two ways

not good

yes, it does suck

...problem with a third party right now is that the Dems have too big a chunk of the electorate this is way different than late 1850s before 1860 election...

To tell you the truth, it's too early to start this kind of detailed arguments now...but I do agree we have to start SENDING A MESSAGE to the GOP and anyone else who cares to listen RIGHT NOW!... No time to waste.

I consider myself a SOCIAl-CONSERVATIVE first and Republican a distanced second. I did not vote for anyone in the last election and I am GLAD MaCaca lost... Because even though we all lost... SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVES would lost EVEN MORE if McLame would have won... Because he would have moved the entire party to the LEFT. Can you imagine McLame's daughter today: MEGHAN MCCAIN, pitching her support for the fags?... and his wife, supports them as well. Not to mention his ex-campaign manager, STEVE SCHMIDT, who finally came out also for the fags as in the Picture below. So you see, McCain would have been a HUGE.... loss for social-conservatives. The conclusion would have been that "we were not longer needed." in others we would have been destroyes as a political force.

I am convinced the "GOP = THE REPUBLICAN LEFT" knew that the LEFT would have a chance to water down the social-conservative vote. BUT, like me, many social-conservatives did NOT VOTE for McCain and we are PROUD of it!

Winning sometimes is NOT winning... and losing, like we did last year... sometimes offers hope you (the group) will be taken seriously the next time around or... what the heck... Let's not fool around and create a third party IF THE RIGHT leader comes along... Why not, if you are going to 'lose' anyway, you might as well lose but keep your principles. etc etc etc.

Again, I don't mean to come out too strong against you, ok? You just gave me the chance to say something on this subject. My message is for everyone, especially for those people out there who come lurking in here in FR. They are the ones I am interested in.

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This is the "weasel" who tried to bamboozle social-conservatives into trying to elect Lefty-Traitor McCain and move the party to the LEFT... He thought that Palin would put MaCaca over the top... NAHHHH... We are not that dumb. And now, after the election, his CAMPAIGN MANAGER, is showing his true colors.

Warning: this links to the Huffinton Post!... We should not go there, but that is where the article came from)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/steve-schmidt-mccain-camp_n_188354.html

I’m in NC, and surrounded by a so called Liberal culture but everyone I talk to isn’t very ‘LIBERAL’ right now. The percentage of true liberals is not very high. It is/was being distorted by the desire for hope and change - that’s why they pounded that message into the ground so hard. Great thing is, that message is 100% recyclable material and will work even better in 2012 - but not from the Dems, and not from the Republicans - they had their shot big time in ‘94 and blew it big time and everyone will remember that for a 100 years. We are undergoing a major shift in philosophy in our nation - times like these demand we shed the past failure of the Republican Party or be completely lost. The Republican Party is dead. It is nothing more than a fring group made of people seeking their own little power bases. The Republic Party has no core beliefs. In fact, it has no core anything. Like an apple with the center missing, it got squishy pretty damn fast.

DIE HARD REPUBLICAN PARTY -
AND LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTIONALISTS!