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...problem with a third party right now is that the Dems have too big a chunk of the electorate this is way different than late 1850s before 1860 election...

To tell you the truth, it's too early to start this kind of detailed arguments now...but I do agree we have to start SENDING A MESSAGE to the GOP and anyone else who cares to listen RIGHT NOW!... No time to waste.

I consider myself a SOCIAl-CONSERVATIVE first and Republican a distanced second. I did not vote for anyone in the last election and I am GLAD MaCaca lost... Because even though we all lost... SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVES would lost EVEN MORE if McLame would have won... Because he would have moved the entire party to the LEFT. Can you imagine McLame's daughter today: MEGHAN MCCAIN, pitching her support for the fags?... and his wife, supports them as well. Not to mention his ex-campaign manager, STEVE SCHMIDT, who finally came out also for the fags as in the Picture below. So you see, McCain would have been a HUGE.... loss for social-conservatives. The conclusion would have been that "we were not longer needed." in others we would have been destroyes as a political force.

I am convinced the "GOP = THE REPUBLICAN LEFT" knew that the LEFT would have a chance to water down the social-conservative vote. BUT, like me, many social-conservatives did NOT VOTE for McCain and we are PROUD of it!

Winning sometimes is NOT winning... and losing, like we did last year... sometimes offers hope you (the group) will be taken seriously the next time around or... what the heck... Let's not fool around and create a third party IF THE RIGHT leader comes along... Why not, if you are going to 'lose' anyway, you might as well lose but keep your principles. etc etc etc.

Again, I don't mean to come out too strong against you, ok? You just gave me the chance to say something on this subject. My message is for everyone, especially for those people out there who come lurking in here in FR. They are the ones I am interested in.

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This is the "weasel" who tried to bamboozle social-conservatives into trying to elect Lefty-Traitor McCain and move the party to the LEFT... He thought that Palin would put MaCaca over the top... NAHHHH... We are not that dumb. And now, after the election, his CAMPAIGN MANAGER, is showing his true colors.

Warning: this links to the Huffinton Post!... We should not go there, but that is where the article came from)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/steve-schmidt-mccain-camp_n_188354.html

you're preaching to the choir, Sarah Palin moved my wife and I to misty eyes twice...no one else has done that since Magnus:

my issues are ending abortion, gun rights (to throw off tyranny), reasonable immigration hopefully from folks more likely to assimilate and share our values...something Ted Kennedy never wanted in the first place and closing our borders to folks without visas, taking back our traditional values based culture and preserving our freedom, sovereignty and heritage

then comes fiscal conservatism except the way Obama and the Dems are going we may have to move fighting back against their excess further up to right after gun rights

but, the left is simply too strong for us to fracture...I simply do not know how we will ever make groups think and vote socially conservative if they do not get it by aged 35 and we have done this to ourselves

i fear how our new demographics will continue to vote...how do you reach folks who for generations have voted against social or fiscal conservatism? i don't know to be honest..