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Congressman Kirk Explains
The Provocateur ^ | 06/29/2009 | Mike Volpe

Posted on 06/29/2009 8:59:19 PM PDT by fiscon1

Congressman Kirk has released a statement explaining why he voted for cap and trade.

For 2009, our top goal should be energy independence. I support exploring for energy off our coasts, expanding nuclear power and building a natural gas pipeline across Canada to lower heating costs in the Midwest – an “all-of-the-above” energy strategy.

As a Navy veteran, I think is time to set America’s policy towards defunding Middle Eastern dictatorships by cutting our foreign oil bill, giving our troops less to worry about. That is why during the debate on the American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) bill, I voted for the Republican Forbes (R-VA) Substitute, based on the text of the New Manhattan Project for Energy Independence, H.R. 513. Our “Manhattan” energy bill set a goal of reducing our dependence on foreign oil by 50% in 10 years and 100% in 20 years. The bill cost $24 billion but would eliminate the $400 billion Americans currently spend on foreign oil. Our bill backs solar, wind, hydro, clean coal and nuclear power. It enhances research, especially in nuclear fusion, bio-fuels, carbon-capture systems and efficiency upgrades. Unfortunately, this bill was defeated by a vote of 172 to 255.

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KEYWORDS: capandtrade; energy; markkirk; rino
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1 posted on 06/29/2009 8:59:20 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1
Clueless. If we stopped buying all oil from the middle east someone else would just buy it instead. The only way you can defund middle eastern terror states is to increase the supply of oil so much that the price drops like a rock.

Didn't this guy learn from Reagan?

2 posted on 06/29/2009 9:02:14 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: fiscon1

In otherwords Congressman, your team lost so you deserted to the enemy.

You’re fired.


3 posted on 06/29/2009 9:06:47 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: fiscon1

WTF? Is “Drill Baby Drill” too hard for him to remember?? Any bets on whether he’s read the bill?


4 posted on 06/29/2009 9:07:01 PM PDT by 24-7Freeper
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To: fiscon1
For 2009, our top goal should be energy independence.

If that were the case, then you wouldn't have voted against coal.

5 posted on 06/29/2009 9:07:39 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: fiscon1

6 posted on 06/29/2009 9:08:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: pnh102

Dumb as a bag of hammers. The studies he cites have been proven false.


7 posted on 06/29/2009 9:09:29 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: pnh102
I knew it was buried in there somewhere.

There is now a growing scientific consensus that the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide affects average temperatures. According to the National Academy of Scientists, carbon dioxide levels rose to a high of 290 parts per million 130,000 years ago, causing a 20 degree increase in temperature. As carbon dioxide levels fell, so did average temperatures.

Course, he totally ignores any evidence that it's just the reverse. carbon dioxide levels rise as the temps rise, making it a lagging not a leading indicator.
8 posted on 06/29/2009 9:09:37 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: pnh102

Clueless.

Exactly. Every bit as clueless or dishonest as the lame excuse offered up by reichert - the traitor from Washington State.

They may think we’re stupid but we KNOW they are!


9 posted on 06/29/2009 9:10:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: fiscon1

The last thing this boondoggle will do is make us energy independent. That is not the goal. If it was then we would start drilling for our own.

Pray for America


10 posted on 06/29/2009 9:11:14 PM PDT by bray (Rope & Chains)
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To: rockrr

Hell, it looks like he copied Reichert......


11 posted on 06/29/2009 9:12:14 PM PDT by cmsgop (Another proud graduate of the Larry Storch school of posting)
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To: rockrr

I Reichert’s explanation on the web?


12 posted on 06/29/2009 9:12:16 PM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1

Congressman Tom McClintock (R) of CA on Cap and Trade. Please send this to your address list and ask that they forward this to their list as well.

The Biggest Economic Mistake Since The Days Of Herbert Hoover

Rep. McClintock gave the following floor speech in opposition to the Cap and Trade legislation on June 26, 2009.

I had a strange sense of Deja Vu as I watched the self-congratulatory rhetoric on the house floor tonight, and I feel compelled to offer this warning from the Left Coast.

Three years ago, I stood on the floor of the California Senate and watched a similar celebration over a similar bill, AB 32. And I have spend the last three years watching as that law has dangerously deepened California’s recession. It uses a different mechanism than Cap and Trade, but the objective is the same: to force a dramatic reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.

Up until that bill took effect, California’s unemployment numbers tracked very closely with the national unemployment rate. But then in January of 2007, California’s unemployment rate began a steady upward divergence from the national jobless figures. Today, California’s unemployment rate is more than two points above the national rate, and at its highest point since 1941.

What is it that happened in January of 2007? AB 32 took effect and began shutting down entire segments of California’s economy. Let me give you one example from my district. The City of Truckee, California was about to sign a long-term power contract to get its electricity from a new, EPA-approved coal-fired electricity plant in Utah. AB 32 and companion legislation caused them to abandon that contract. The replacement power they acquired literally doubled their electricity costs.

So when economists warn that we can expect electricity prices to double under the cap and trade bill, I can tell you from bitter experience that in my district, that’s not a future prediction, that is an historical fact.

Gov. Schwarzenegger assured us that AB 32 would mean an explosion of new, green jobs — exactly the same promises we’re hearing from cap and trade supporters. In California, exactly the opposite has happened. We have lost so many jobs that the UCSB economic forecast is now using the D-word – Depression – to discuss California’s job market.

M. Speaker, the Cap and Trade bill proposes what amounts to endlessly increasing taxes on any enterprises that produce carbon dioxide or other so-called greenhouse gas emissions. We need to understand what that means. It has profound implications for agriculture, construction, cargo and passenger transportation, energy production, baking and brewing – all of which produce enormous quantities this innocuous and ubiquitous compound. In fact, every human being produces 2.2 pounds of carbon dioxide every day – just by breathing.

So applying a tax to the economy designed to radically constrict carbon dioxide emissions means radically constricting the economy.

And this brings us to the fine point of it.

When you discuss the folly of the Hoover Administration – how it turned the recession of 1929 into the depression of the 1930’s, the first thing that economists point to is the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act that imposed new taxes on over 20,000 imported products.

Waxman Markey is our generation’s Smoot Hawley. In fact, it’s worse because it imposes new taxes on an infinitely larger number of domestic products on a scale that utterly dwarfs Smoot-Hawley.

Let’s ignore for the moment the fact that the planet’s climate is constantly changing and that long term global warming has been going on since the last ice age. Let’s ignore the fact that within recorded history we know of periods when the earth’s climate has been much warmer than it is today and others when it has been much cooler. Let’s ignore the thousands of climate scientists and meteorologists who have concluded that human-produced greenhouse gases are a negligible factor in global warming or climate change.

Ignore all of that and still we are left with one lousy sense of timing. In the most serious recession since the Great Depression – why would members of this house want to repeat the same mistakes that produced that Great Depression? Watching how California has just wrecked its economy and destroyed its finances, why would they want to do the same thing to our nation?

M. Speaker, this is deadly serious stuff. It transcends ideology and politics. This House has just made the biggest economic mistake since the days of Herbert Hoover.

If this measure becomes law, two things are certain.

First, our planet will continue to warm and cool as it has been doing for billions of years.

Second: Congress will have delivered a staggering blow to our nation’s economy at precisely that moment when that economy was the most vulnerable.


13 posted on 06/29/2009 9:12:36 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 24-7Freeper
Any bets on whether he’s read the bill?

Exactly the point. How the hell would he know what wonderful things are going the come out of this legislation. Nobody has any idea what's in it...

Tapdancing...

14 posted on 06/29/2009 9:13:46 PM PDT by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Congressman Tom McClintock (R) of CA on Cap and Trade. Please send this to your address list and ask that they forward this to their list as well.

The Biggest Economic Mistake Since The Days Of Herbert Hoover

Rep. McClintock gave the following floor speech in opposition to the Cap and Trade legislation on June 26, 2009.


I heard his speech and he was amazing!


15 posted on 06/29/2009 9:15:29 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: pnh102

We would have energy independence if we stopped hoarding our natural resources like friggin’ museum artifacts. It is completely ridiculous for us to do this. We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas and coal, and we have moderate oil reserves that will tide us over until there’s a breakthrough in alternative energy. A breakthrough I support only without gubmint handouts, mandates, and subsidies.


16 posted on 06/29/2009 9:18:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: fiscon1
Maybe this worthless peckerhead should introduce legislation dealing with energy Independence instead of just signing on to Pelosi’s nostrum? That would take leadership and THAT would be impossible with this RINO dog.
18 posted on 06/29/2009 9:20:20 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: fiscon1

My guess is that he has cut a backroom deal with dems for the Blaggo-appointed Roland Burris senate seat; but that is just a guess. Had to be something big to turncoat on such an important bill

As he is a Rino, he is palatable (for a while) to dems.

Regardless of my guess, Ihope whatever he got was worth the price he has paid—

Price? I (and many like me) will NEVER EVER vote for him; will work to oppose him. A while ago, I had heard his comments about North Korea on the radio, WLS, Don Wade & Roma & thot he was OK...Not anymore!


19 posted on 06/29/2009 9:20:47 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: fiscon1

How can anyone that stupid be a navy veteran and a Congressman?


20 posted on 06/29/2009 9:22:15 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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