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1 posted on 05/07/2009 7:19:38 PM PDT by Neville72
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bump.


2 posted on 05/07/2009 7:22:53 PM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Neville72

How does a private citizen file a federal lawsuit? I’m game... I’ll file one


3 posted on 05/07/2009 7:23:24 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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If Obama’s claims that he is a natural born citizen are valid, then you would think President Obama would voluntarily open up all of his records for scrutinization so that the doubts in the minds of those that believe he may not be eligible would be satisfied. An investigation by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation found, however, that Barack Obama spent upwards of about $950,000 in campaign funds last year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his records, including collegiate records... What is Barry trying to hide? Why would an innocent man spend so much time and money in resources to protect the release of information when he has nothing to hide?

And although these are legitimate questions, we need to be reasonable.

If Barack Obama were not an American citizen, then why is he so fundamentally supportive of our American traditions and way of life; and why does he work so hard to ensure the defense our Country to the great extent that he does?

Oh, wait...

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4 posted on 05/07/2009 7:26:54 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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This is a smoldering fire that will not burn itself out.


5 posted on 05/07/2009 7:27:29 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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PING!


6 posted on 05/07/2009 7:29:51 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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Obama Administration teams are working diligently to produce a visually acceptable birth certificate that will once and for all, as far as they are concerned, put the issue to rest.

Problem is, what they are working on is the production of a forgery of a long-form birth certificate from Hawaii.

Naturally, most of us suspected that Team Barry would commence to executing such a project as soon as the election votes were counted, but I don't see anything but supposition and theorizing about this in the article.

7 posted on 05/07/2009 7:32:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Would the repercussions of his being ineligible be worse than the damage he’s doing to our nation? I DON’T THINK SO.


8 posted on 05/07/2009 7:33:30 PM PDT by Semper Mark (We're being held hostage in the wet dream of a 60's radical.)
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Looks like the usurper President will get away with it unless we apply pressure. If it’s found out that he’s illegitimate, all hell will break loose.


9 posted on 05/07/2009 7:34:09 PM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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Wouldn’t such a ruse require the active participation of officials in Hawaii to insert the forgery into the vault?


10 posted on 05/07/2009 7:34:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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Imagine the outcry by the Obama faithful should their Messiah turn out to be a liar and a fraud.

obama is a liar and a fraud, no matter how the birth certificate issue turns out. He's already been proven a liar on many campaign promises. (earmarks, lobbyists, gitmo, the wars, reaching across the aisle, restoring trust in the govt, keeping track of Air Force One, etc. etc.)

Question is, will they be angry for being lied to, or for the lies being exposed?

They are by definition liberals, drinking the kool-aid... Of course their anger will be directed at blaming someone else, not the real problem. Concepts like responsibility and accountability are foreign to them.

11 posted on 05/07/2009 7:35:04 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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I’m expecting a “real Hawaiian Obama birth certificate” to suddenly appear on a table in Hillary’s office any day now.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 7:35:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Politicians always love to talk about "hard work." What the hell would they know about it?)
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Assuming that the well informed author of this piece has a verifiable, independent vidoe tape of Rahm Emmanuel in this museum in Toronto telling staffers to make a forged birth certificate and then assuming that the document then produced can be verified as a forgery because, for example, it is printed on official Dukes of Hazzard stationary, then congress will just pass another completely unconstitutional piece of legislation granting him an exemption from that inconvenient ammendment and go back to business as usual.

It’s nice to dream about the election being overturned by a magic revelation that is indisputable. My daughter is probably dreaming that a pony will magically appear in the back yard overnight.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 7:36:12 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications)
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Obama Administration teams are working diligently to produce a visually acceptable birth certificate that will once and for all, as far as they are concerned, put the issue to rest.
If this rumor is true what "work" is there to do? A simple phone call to the governor of Hawaii, who Mr. Dunham seems to be on good terms with, would release the document in a matter of minutes and the press/media in Hawaii would love to get the scoop of the form doing a perp walk out of the filing cabinet.
If anything is ever produced the speculation will not go away because the document should've been released a long time ago.
15 posted on 05/07/2009 7:38:59 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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As far as my trust is concerned, Obama can’t win. He has bought entirely too much time to forge or fake something. Even if he does release an original birth certificate, I cannot trust that it is legitimate.


17 posted on 05/07/2009 7:42:45 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: devolve; Neville72; All

18 posted on 05/07/2009 7:44:33 PM PDT by potlatch
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Who is this guy? Is he credible?

This seemed a bit strange with no supporting evidence to offer:

“So, the Obama team has come up with a plan to stop the inquiries once and for all; by producing a believable birth certificate.

Obama Administration teams are working diligently to produce a visually acceptable birth certificate that will once and for all, as far as they are concerned, put the issue to rest. Problem is, what they are working on is the production of a forgery of a long-form birth certificate from Hawaii.

The expectation is for this elaborate forgery to surface in the next month or two.

The forgery, it has been alleged, has already been printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto, Canada. The blanks on the forged form is said to have been filled in with an old Underwood manual typewriter. The only reason we haven’t seen the forgery yet is that they are “seasoning” it under mild UV light and a back and forth rotation between a humidifier and a sauna.”

I don’t doubt that the Obama team would do this at all....but the writer putting this latest out there without a shred of supporting evidence(not even a ‘according to sources..blahblahblah’)leaves alot to be desired...imho.


19 posted on 05/07/2009 7:45:36 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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Suppose all of what the writer says is true, including the efforts to produce a visibly satisfying birth certificate. Who or what could stop them?


21 posted on 05/07/2009 7:46:33 PM PDT by GBA
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Everything about Obama’s (Barry's) past is so odd, so unusual, so unexpected, so out of the norm, and so dysfunctional that there MUST be something controversial on his original and true birth certificate.

Otherwise, it would not be an issue. I am sure there are secrets concerning his mother and his birth that even Obama never knew and will never know.

One thing is for certain; Obama’s mother was one odd duck.

22 posted on 05/07/2009 7:47:20 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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Have Hawaii Release the full ("vault") birth certificate. End the controversy.

All we are saying
is give release a chance

26 posted on 05/07/2009 7:51:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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"The forgery, it has been alleged, has already been printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto, Canada. The blanks on the forged form is said to have been filled in with an old Underwood manual typewriter. The only reason we haven?t seen the forgery yet is that they are ?seasoning? it under mild UV light and a back and forth rotation between a humidifier and a sauna."

Unfortunately, this quote indicates Barry has won. It's now at the point where no matter what Barry produces, the opposition will claim that it's an elaborate coverup.

Once conspiracies reach this point, right or wrong, the believers of the mainstream story line can claim that the wackos are using the actual true proof as proof that there's an elaborate coverup.

28 posted on 05/07/2009 7:52:27 PM PDT by uncommonsense (liberals see what they believe and conservatives believe what they see)
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