Posted on 04/16/2009 8:36:02 PM PDT by Kartographer
Serious question for Freepers, which undoubtedly will end up getting me place on the DHS watch list, but here goes any way; Are we head toward a civil war between those who wish to continue living under a Free Market/Republic and those who wish to move to a Socialist/Democracy?
This I think is the key to the great divide which is forming between what is essentially becoming the real 'two Americas'. Has that riff between the two grown so far apart that as the Declaration of Independence states:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
As a nation have we pulled that far apart? Is there a hope of reconciliation? Can the great divide beclosed and healed?
There are two kinds of “civil war”, which most people confuse.
The “civil war” usually imagined by US citizens, modeled after “The Late Unpleasantness” (aka other names) and the “Revolutionary War”, has a pretty clear geographic dividing line, and seeks to separate the country along that line. One side wants division, the other union.
The “civil war” more commonly experienced abroad is a struggle over who controls the country - no division per se, but a fight for the reigns of power. Whether that stems from a popular uprising or coup d’etat, there is no attempt to divide the country.
While Americans worry about the former, it will be the latter. There is a geographic division of political ideology, but it is drawn around cities, dividing urban from rural. Even in the “reddest” states, the cities’ core is blue. While geographically divisible, it divides like islands from the sea. This is not viable for a secession-oriented civil war, any more than it is to remove the sea from an island chain.
Given a geographic “sea of red” punctuated by pockets of “blue”, with the latter trying to impose its views on the former, we can only expect a struggle for the reigns of power while maintaining a geographically unified nation. Given the existing thicket of legal red tape so hopelessly tangled that none can achieve change by untying it, recall the solution to the Gordian Knot. Given the extreme debt racked up in the last few months, with more to come, the only way to pay it off is hyperinflation (i.e.: not to). Given the coddling of enemies and demonization of normal citizens (by alleged tolerance-worshipping pacifists), polite discourse will be impossible. This all leaves only one path.
Tom McClintock’s office in Roseville, CA:
916-786-5560
DC Office:
202-225-2511
This cannot be solved politically.
Repeating. You are wise happygrl. Mike
It makes me wonder what would have been different had the voters of California rallied behind McClintock instead of that other klown...
I would prefer that our Congress wake up and take charge. However, that said, I don’t think it will happen.
We have allowed this “ruling class” of lawmakers, that care nothing of their constituants, that are forcing the takeover of our country.
They are the ones ignoring our freedom and our Constitution.
If you look at all the riots and burning of cities in this country in modern times, it's always been done by liberals.
Liberals are violent - we're not.
If Obama persists in the destruction of all that has been traditionally American, he will not hold power long. Just as Kerensky & the Mensheviks couldn’t hold the reins and were toppled by Lenin’s Bolshevik troika and then they wiped out the Mensheviks because they knew too much. The Democrats are fast becoming today’s Mensheviks...and they are only tools.
They will accuse of us being greedy. But they don't understand what we're about. We are givers. But we prefer to give from our hearts not to be taken from by our government. Giving from the heart is a concept they cannot comprehend. They are hard hearted people who go the extra mile to pretend to be benevolent (anger). But whenever they do give, they make sure it is printed in the paper or they set up a foundation in their name (pride). Need i go on? No i think so. People can easily think of examples of how liberals live by the other 5 cardinal sins.
Yes. I observed some time back, the left under Obama has separated itself from America and hewed to an alien thirdworld socialist/fascist ideology based on hatred and death. And they have broken off diplomatic relations with the real America. Forewarned, is forarmed.
I believe so. Many, many people I know think so. The majority of Tea Party-goers I've spoken with believe so. A great many people posting on this and other forums believe so. Chuck Norris seems to believe so. Ted Nugent seems to believe so. Rick Perry may actually have come to his senses and finally believe so.
The good news is that we are better armed, equipped, and prepared than "they" are.
The bad news is that the (bloated, power-crazed federal) government supports them.
To be truly free, we must be willing to lose everything.
Choose this day how you will serve; Will you serve unwillingly and at the biding of others wearing the yoke of socialism or will hold true to the course of our forefathers’ standing tall and serving freely? As for me I choose to SERVE THE REPUBLIC!!
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