Posted on 12/25/2008 7:55:05 PM PST by Soliton
After 10 years and many thousands of replies, I am leaving FR.
I don't really care, and I don't know why anyone else would.
I am leaving before I am banned (again). Truth doesn't seem to matter on FR. I don't know if it is donations or sympathetic opinions that do, but I have been suspended twice when I followed the rules and the people who complained to the moderators didn't, yet the moderators sided with them.
For the record, evolution is a fact and the Shroud of Turin is a fraud. I would prove it if the admin moderators would let me, but they won't. Your resident "expert", Swordmaker won't debate me because he can't.
I will work to build a forum where members have rights and truth matters.
Merry Christmas
Please, wasn’t Jesus that said God’s word is not to be forced on anyone? I guess a few more million people needs to be slaughtered for not converting to Roman Catholism.
There is no lefty call for "tolerance" on Free Republic. Differing views, sometimes wildly differing, are permitted. Disputing those views is also permitted, unless it's a Caucus thread on the Religion Forum. FReepers should be free to discuss their religious beliefs freely, without harassment. What is not permitted is personal attacks, harassment, thread stalking and the like. Civility is the key, or at least some close semblance to it. Some people get so caught up in the "rightness" of their particular cause, that they lose perspective and end up getting themselves banned. Note that an Opus would not be possible, had the FReeper in question been banned. Far from it, he's posting a vanity.
Merry Christmas to you too
I shouldn’t of used the word “tolerant” as I actually despise it. It would just be nice if everyone could at least be a little objective.
Swordmaker did this?
That’s pretty cool :)
“Newsflash: you can be conservative, non-religious and manage to avoid going to the Religion Forum to repeatedly harass people about their respective religious beliefs.”
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Excellent point.
FR is a very potent mix of fundamental conservatism (pro religion) and free wheeling libertarianism (pro freedom).
I think the mix is so powerful, because the left in America long ago stopped being “liberal” in the traditional sense of the word (that is to say, pro-freedom and individualistic) and became group-thinking socialist, militantly athiest wannabe tyrants.
This has created a situation where libertarians and conservatives have more in common than different - a true case of “the enemy of my enemy, is my friend”.
There are compromises to be maintained in such a partnership.
Conservatives sometimes put up with the more flaky pro-individual beliefs of some of us libertarians - in return for us libertarians recognizing our own political philosophy is about (not) insisting on how others should believe - and respecting those whose primary driver is faith, and the deeply profound legitimacy of that faith.
If you’re not of deep faith, then keep it to yourself.
Why argue pro-evolution on a religion forum?
Nah. A Robertsonian C- at best, with no potential upside in the future.
They are.
That vid is hysterical. Where is the link for that so I can save it. I still have tears rolling from laughing so hard.!!!!!
Funniest thing I’ve seen in years.
Merry Christmas!
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That’s what I asked. The opus sure seems to obsess over Swordmaker.
I've written my opus, to be posted by my son (also a member) after my death. It's a friendly bye bye and I hope I get better than a "C+". (Not that I'll ever know)
I guarantee I won't be back.
Actually, most people who talk about the “Theory of Evolution” are not actually talking about Evolution Theory, but rather about the history of life. History is not science, much less a theory.
As I explain often, if you put a pencil on a table, and later find it on the floor, the theory of gravity that you note would explain how the pencil got on the floor. But if you were to say that the pencil fell to the floor because of gravity, you wouldn’t be discussing gravitational theory, but the history of the pencil.
And if you later found that someone took the pencil off the table, and put it on the floor, it would not invalidate the theory of gravity, but it would falsify your history of the pencil.
Evolution is demonstratable, but the history of man is not. Evolution does not preclude God having created the universe or man, it merely provides an alternative explanation for those who want to make up a history of the world that doesn’t require a God.
Some would say it was simply part of God’s plan to provide a plausible theory for those who wanted to ignore God’s existance. If science were to prove the existence of God, we would no longer need faith.
As to the shroud of Turin, soliton will get no argument from me. But I have no interest in arguing over it, or trying to disabuse anybody of their beliefs on that regard.
a monument to your monumental self.
Newton’s laws are just simpler. The ‘theory’ is considered the more detailed physics and mathematics within the laws.
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