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U.S. Civil War exhibit at National Portrait Gallery
EUDAIMONIA and other pursuits ^ | 12-15-08 | MT

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:10:08 AM PST by mft112345

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To: Non-Sequitur

go on what ever thread you like but the fact is that nearly every thread you do go on there seems to be an argument and have no worries there are many on here who just quite frankly think you speak crap.

As for you always jumping on these threads about the war then I’ll be on here as I get pinged but you can put out whatever drivel you like but don’t expect me to reply and take the bait


81 posted on 12/17/2008 9:31:52 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: KC Burke

could you imagine how he felt when he was told off Lee to advance at Gettysburg.
I have often wondered what would have happened if Stonewall was at that battle, would Lee have gone ahead ,etc


82 posted on 12/17/2008 9:39:57 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
go on what ever thread you like but the fact is that nearly every thread you do go on there seems to be an argument and have no worries there are many on here who just quite frankly think you speak crap.

And in all these threads there are many people who I think speak crap as well. My fear is that someone might wander by and mistakenly believe you actually know what you're talking about. Though with your allergy to puctuation that'll be harder for them to do.

As for you always jumping on these threads about the war then I’ll be on here as I get pinged but you can put out whatever drivel you like but don’t expect me to reply and take the bait.

I honestly could not cate less what you do. But be advised that you shouldn't expect to be able o post nonsense and have it go unchallenged.

83 posted on 12/17/2008 9:45:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

word of warning.

Before you harp on about someone’s English wirting then you should check yours.

I’ll let you see for yourself.You wrote.

I honestly could not cate less what you do. But be advised that you shouldn’t expect to be able o post nonsense and have it go unchallenged.


84 posted on 12/17/2008 9:51:29 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

There is a difference between a typo and a complete lack of any punctuation at all.


85 posted on 12/17/2008 10:10:52 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Has it ever occurred to you that on nearly every thread you have people correcting you, saying you’re full of yourself etc and that you might actually be wrong or is it a case that everyone is wrong but you?

You’re on here all the time. One would think the kids are away at college and now there’s no one around except the Internet to give your wealth of knowledge to.
ARF.


86 posted on 12/17/2008 10:20:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
Has it ever occurred to you that on nearly every thread you have people correcting you, saying you’re full of yourself etc and that you might actually be wrong or is it a case that everyone is wrong but you?

Yes but unlike you I respond and give my reasons for my position. You just poop out any crap that comes to mind and expect us to swallow it whole.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I don't expect everyone to take my points at face value. I don't expect that everything I say will go unchallenged, and am ready to respond to any debate. I do respect people who obviously have done some research on the subject under discussion. One of the reasons why I don't have any respect for you.

ARF.

Woof.

87 posted on 12/17/2008 10:29:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

you say woof

I get the impression you’re a poodle, am I right?
I said poodle for a reason but you being so smart then I think you could grasp why poodle came into my mind


88 posted on 12/17/2008 10:37:24 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc
you say woof

You say ARF. I say woof. I don't shout.

I said poodle for a reason but you being so smart then I think you could grasp why poodle came into my mind.

Yes, your attempts at humor are as lame as your attempts at debate.

89 posted on 12/17/2008 10:43:39 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I actually wasn’t using humor


90 posted on 12/17/2008 10:49:11 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Southron Patriot; TLI
During his Christmas Raid of 1862, Morgan captured the town I currently live in, Elizabethtown, (or E-Town as we call it) Kentucky. The town was a crossroads for road and rail traffic, so there was a garrison of 600 Federal troops in town, but Morgan had 1,800 men with him.

The colonel in charge of the Federal troops sent Morgan a letter informing him that he was surrounded and demanding his surrender. Morgan sent a reply informing the colonel that the situation was actually the opposite. When the colonel refused to surrender, Morgan had his battery fire a couple of shots into town and then personally led a cavalry charge straight through the center of town.

The Federal colonel was convinced that he was going to be carried off in chains, so he hid in a basement, forcing his number two to surrender their forces. There were only a couple of minor injuries and no fatalities, so Morgan graciously accepted the garrison's surrender and offered them parole, as he did not have enough men to spare to escort them back to Tennessee.

Another E-Town Civil War tidbit is that this is the hometown of another Confederate general, Benjamin Hardin Helm, who also happened to be Abraham Lincoln's brother-in-law. Mortally wounded at Chickamauga, Helm is buried in his family cemetery, about one mile from where I am currently sitting.

91 posted on 12/17/2008 10:52:46 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.-Robert E.Lee)
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To: manc
I actually wasn’t using humor

Reading your posts it's so hard to tell.

92 posted on 12/17/2008 10:53:25 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

it must be for you

have to go now as I have a life and can’t sit on the computer all day trying to make myself important and get respect.

come on you remember that when you were younger.
Kids come home from school soon, work around the house and then play various sports etc.


93 posted on 12/17/2008 11:00:14 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Interestingly enough, I have been there. The description in the book I read was spot on correct. The hill next to the graveyard, the rail line and road into town. I was looking for the cannonball that is still embedded in the wall and just from the description in the book I drove to the spot I thought it would be located and parked. I stepped out of the car, looked up, there it was. I had parked directly underneath it. I also got to see Gen. Custer’s house. All very interesting.


94 posted on 12/17/2008 11:01:45 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: manc
have to go now as I have a life and can’t sit on the computer all day trying to make myself important and get respect.

Don't go away mad, etc., etc.

come on you remember that when you were younger. Kids come home from school soon, work around the house and then play various sports etc.

Somewhere in there you might try and find time to actually read up on the topics you're trying to discuss before jumping on the forum.

95 posted on 12/17/2008 11:16:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: manc

Wert has a book he wrote about Longstreet that does a very good job of addressing the issues. While it has been ten years since I read it, my memory left me with the understanding that his contention boiled down to the arguement that Early and Ewell took positions after the war in promoting the Lost Cause issue and somewhat excusing their own shortcomings in the battle that caused them to more and more as time went on throw unjust blame on Longstreet even coming to the point of contending that Longstreet was to have advanced at dawn.

Longstreet spent his later years trying to sweep this falsehood away but as Early and others had control of the Confederate history society it was a battle that he could never win because as a political realist he joined the Republican Party and served in the Grant administration — a position that those still fighting the war in their hearts could never abide.

See this link for a section of Wert’s arguements and acount of some of the history.

http://books.google.com/books?id=SCpgOUi3YUUC&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=wert+longstreet&source=web&ots=4sn4fV3Es-&sig=JHwWvUXuhZnduIQ-3I_lWYHSiBQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA89,M1

It is interesting the the true late man to the battle was Ewell.


96 posted on 12/17/2008 11:37:43 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: TLI
Custer was pretty much run out of E-Town due to an incident with his dogs. Custer had a pack of wolf hounds (eight or nine of them) and he always had one of his junior officers take them out for a walk each afternoon. One day the mayor of E-Town, himself a Union hero (naval captain), was taking his prized beagle for a walk when they encountered the pack. Before either man could do anything, the wolf hounds raced across the street and tore the poor beagle to pieces.

The furious mayor went to the cottage behind the Brown-Pusey House where Custer was staying and demanded that Custer both remove the wolf hounds and pay to replace his hunting dog. Custer told the mayor to stick his demands in his ear, prompting the mayor to telegraph some of his old friends at the War Department. Two weeks later, Custer was on his way out West.

Another thing about Morgan is that there is a local legend that when his men were burning the railroad trestle on Muldraugh Hill they captured a train traveling from Nashville to Louisville that was carrying almost a million dollars worth of gold coinage that had been taken from banks in occupied Tennessee, Mississippi, and Alabama to prevent this money from being used to support the Confederacy. Morgan supposedly buried this money in "a Confederate grave by a cave" in the vicinity of what is now Bernheim Forest, intending to return for it later, but was unable to do so before his capture in Ohio a few months later.

Whether this is true or not, I have no idea, but it is a fascinating legend.

97 posted on 12/17/2008 9:31:10 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.-Robert E.Lee)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Excellent point.


98 posted on 12/18/2008 5:51:32 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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