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To: springtime4hillary
A person may hold dual citizenship in one country regardless of the rules in the other country. A person born in Mexico who is a naturalized citizen of the US must renounce his or her Mexican citizenship in the US.

I spent hours one day on INS web searches and came up with this jewel: The United States has never forced a dual citizen to renounce US citizenship.

Supreme court precedence holds that a person who renounces US citizenship voluntarily is no longer a US citizen, but having one's parent claim Indonesian citizenship does not fill the requirement for voluntary renunciation of US citizenship.

There is a lot of hopefulness in this stuff, but it is just stuff. Obama's school transcripts my show he was registered as a Kenyan, or an Indonesian, but that still does not mean that he was not also an American.

It pains me to say that some people, including Alan Keyes, should do their homework.

53 posted on 11/18/2008 2:23:31 PM PST by Bertram3
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To: Bertram3

Then he has divided loyalty.


56 posted on 11/18/2008 2:25:50 PM PST by Vendome
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To: Bertram3

Nope. Leo’s covered this last night. It is very clear and specific. The founders refused any foreign citizens at birth. Obama admits he was a British citizen on his web site at birth.

The founders specifically did not want English subjects unless it was anyone born before 1790 or something.

http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/

Leo has the details on his web site.


59 posted on 11/18/2008 2:27:44 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Bertram3
Obama's school transcripts my show he was registered as a Kenyan, or an Indonesian, but that still does not mean that he was not also an American.

Duo citizenship is also unconstitutional. It suggests a split allegiance. It's clear in the intent.

63 posted on 11/18/2008 2:29:51 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Bertram3

Do you not consider the use of another countries passport, as an adult, and travel to countries where Americans were not allowed to travel, an issue to be considered when evaluating?

Seems to me that if a person does this he has become a participant of the citizenship his parents have declared after adoption. Personal declaration of citizenship?

The issue of scholarships based on foreign student status is a much more recent speculation and not one I have any familiarity with the details...do you?


69 posted on 11/18/2008 2:41:25 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Bertram3

> It pains me to say that some people, including Alan Keyes, should do their homework. <

You’re entirely correct that FReepers should do their homework and realize that the whole 0bama “citizenship dispute” is going absolutely nowhere, no time, no way, no how.

Moreover, these well-intentioned but naïve people make themselves look silly by chasing this story line. I fear they will be perceived widely as on a fool’s errand — one that well may discredit the conservative movement.

Now when it comes to Alan Keyes, I believe there’s no hope. Any call for him to “do his homework” is basically a waste of bandwidth. The man is either bereft of sanity, or he’s a cynical publicity seeker. If he doesn’t deserve the sympathy we should have for the insane, then I say he richly deserves our scorn.


78 posted on 11/18/2008 3:00:34 PM PST by Hawthorn
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