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MCCAIN'S TARNISHED HONOR (He has damaged his own reputation for no apparent reason)
Greens Real World ^ | NOVEMBER 12, 2008 | THE HISTORIAN

Posted on 11/15/2008 1:45:14 AM PST by RobinMasters

He is an American hero. He has a history of putting country first. On balance, there is no doubt that he is a man of honor. But he has tarnished that honor, unnecessarily, in recent times.

The McCain campaign for President was so burdened with contradiction as to appear to be almost bipolar. To the degree that a campaign is a reflection of the candidate, it is little wonder that McCain could not win out over his much more inspirational and charismatic opponent. More importantly, it is the inside operation of his campaign as a manifestation of the man wherein some of his shining honor was diminished.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; epicfail; mccain; mccainsbetrayal; mccainsfailure; mccainstreason
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1 posted on 11/15/2008 1:45:14 AM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
Couldn't figure out where this author was coming from - but once I read the full article, it's another "John didn't come to the rescue of Sarah Palin" screeds.

1. Sarah Palin's a big girl, swimming in the big pool. If she can't handle critics by now, she never will be ready.

2. Sarah Palin may have a first-class mind hidden in there somewhere but if so, it isn't immediately obvious. For example, she usually answers questions just fine in the first phrase or two but she always keeps going and going. She seems to just enjoy talking, long after the question was answered. In the world of politics, less is better: "it's better to have your opponent think you a fool than to open your mouth and prove it".

3. John McCain was a hero before the campaign, was a hero throughout the campaign, and remains a hero today. No pundit, right or left, can change that fact. Those people that try to smear John McCain are always those midgets on the periphery that never served a day in any organization where their lives were on the line. Always safer to be a critic behind some anonymous keyboard.

I came away from the campaign with a less-than-generous opinion of Sarah Palin's future as a conservative candidate. I listened to her speak.

2 posted on 11/15/2008 2:11:20 AM PST by Chinstrap61a
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To: RobinMasters
BRAVO SIERRA, over!

Much more should have been made of President-elect Obama’s ties to Bill Ayers and his terrorist wife, to Pastor Wright, Father Pfleger, Frank Marshall Davis, Tony Rezko and the rest of that hive of scum and villainy. McCain lost primarily because he didn't “go there” and show Mr. Obama for what he is. All this talk of fairness makes me want to vomit! Wait until next year and see what President Obama is up to then, and remind me how we weren't “fair” to him during the election@

3 posted on 11/15/2008 2:12:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Chinstrap61a

The author could simply have titled the piece: “I’m retarded and now look at me pound on my keyboard for 5 minutes and see what comes out.”


4 posted on 11/15/2008 2:13:46 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Chinstrap61a
So she was thrown to the wolves media wise?

-The McCain campaign than launches Palin onto the post-convention nationwide stage by putting her in front of an aggressive, pro-Obama, well established big biased media. Both Charlie Gibson and shortly thereafter Katie Couric make every possible attempt to embarrass and entrap Palin, a neophyte on the national political scene. McCain's people chose to put her there first rather than in front of their talk radio allies where she could have waded into the water instead of being tossed off the bridge. Not the smart or honorable thing to do.

Now we seem to have two camps running around here. Those who say she wasn't ready for prime time and those who say she was.

So now she's a neophyte, but ready, who needed to have some coddling interviews before being allowed to go before Gibson and Couric? Who in talk radio is an ally to McCain besides perhaps Hannity who is Mr. Republican talking points?

Those who questioned Governor Palin's readiness wondered how she would do on the Sunday morning gab fests. The response was she was ready. We found out in the Couric/Gibson interviews.

Only in hindsite this guy is saying she was a neophyte who needed protection.

5 posted on 11/15/2008 2:47:35 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BRAVO SIERRA, over! Much more should have been made of President-elect Obama’s ties to Bill Ayers and his terrorist wife, to Pastor Wright, Father Pfleger, Frank Marshall Davis, Tony Rezko and the rest of that hive of scum and villainy. McCain lost primarily because he didn't “go there” and show Mr. Obama for what he is. All this talk of fairness makes me want to vomit! Wait until next year and see what President Obama is up to then, and remind me how we weren't “fair” to him during the election@

Naturally, I agree with you.

I heard an interesting snippet on Neal Boortz's show a couple of days ago.

Talking with Dick Morris ( Yes, I find the man loathsome, but his push polls & focus groups kept Clinton in office- when he cites data, he knows his stuff ), Morris pointed out data that in every area GOPtrust ran ads, McCain walked away with the independent/undecided vote.

His point being, GOPtrust's ads hammered those shady associates of Obama, and McCain's ads didn't.

It's all water under the bridge ( or water over the damned, as an old friend like to quip. ) now, but it points out the obvious, that the McCain campaign was far too easy on Duh!1©...

6 posted on 11/15/2008 2:54:22 AM PST by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Chinstrap61a

“... John didn’t come to the rescue of Sarah Palin screeds”

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Mitt?

Is that you?


7 posted on 11/15/2008 2:57:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: RobinMasters
John McCain ran a pitiful half-a**ed campaign. He did not appear to actually want to win. He was not aggressive. He did not use the opportunities presented - handed to him on a darn platter, to pursue victory.
The media was obviously against him and he didn't use that fact to garner votes. There were ways to exploit that clear fact and he did not. He was less than enthusiastic in his support for his choice for VP. The smarmy comments about Gov. Palin reflect more on the mind-set behind them than they carry weight, or validity in evaluating her. She was the rallying point that could have done so much more to bring out those who needed a strong reason to support the ticket; those who were not all that enthused over Sen. McCain but who still wanted a good reason to vote for the Republican ticket. She was the much under-used reason. McCains lack-luster campaigning and his luke-warm support and use of Gov Palin was, IMO, the reason the Republican ticket lost.
Yes, I place a lot of the reason right in McCains lap. He is no FNG to politics. He should have done better. Much much better.

Thats my call.
8 posted on 11/15/2008 3:01:43 AM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: backhoe
His point being, GOPtrust's ads hammered those shady associates of Obama, and McCain's ads didn't.

It's all water under the bridge ( or water over the damned, as an old friend like to quip. ) now, but it points out the obvious, that the McCain campaign was far too easy on Duh!1©...


The question is why? I can understand why Hillary never exposed Obama's Black Liberation Theology. It would have destroyed both of them politically. But I cant understand why McCain didn't. Maybe McCain had as many skeletons as Obama too?
9 posted on 11/15/2008 3:02:29 AM PST by igoramus08 (Democrats caused Fannie and Freddie to collapse and this Economic Crisis and Recession)
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To: igoramus08

This poster posits, McCain somewhere along the way lost the ability to recognize “enemies, domestic”.

He simply cannot fathom, another American might not wish this country well.

It’s got to somehow relate, to 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton.

Not sure how, but that’s the best explanation I can come up with. Anyone paying attention, can see there’s not one bit of difference between today’s leftwing democrats, and those NVA guards holding McCain in that cell.

But he couldn’t see that.

It was just not something he could even contemplate.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 3:08:19 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Mitt? Is that you?"

Hah!

Nope, just one guy that isn't all that smitten by Sarah...she's not going to be our new Ron Reagan and we need to start finding the real article and quit squinting so hard at the lady from Anchorage.

11 posted on 11/15/2008 3:09:27 AM PST by Chinstrap61a
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To: Chinstrap61a

Explain yourself.

What’s Palin lacking?

Other than testosterone? Which she seems to have more of, than a certain Republican Senator.

What’s your agenda?


12 posted on 11/15/2008 3:13:49 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Chinstrap61a

As a relatively newbie, your liberal skirt is showing by attacking Sarah. To question her conservative creditials and attempt a lame support of mclame is a dead giveaway. Yes, he WAS a hero but continues to be his liberal maveriak self is telling.


13 posted on 11/15/2008 3:26:39 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tainan
John McCain ran a pitiful half-a**ed campaign. He did not appear to actually want to win.

After he locked up the nomination, McCain began to realize he would lose his comradery with his friends across the aisle and his friends in the media. Johnny loved being on those Sunday morning talk programs. Johnny loved being the Maverick of the Senate. Johnny loved being the spearhead of those various senate gangs.

I don't think Johnny Mc really wanted to give all that up. So, he became more interest in 'running' for the presidency than in trying to 'win' the presidency.
14 posted on 11/15/2008 3:31:17 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Chinstrap61a

Give me a freaking break....I know you are kind of NEW here, but Sarah was REAL and REFRESHING and CONSERVATIVE....not some PHONY INCOMPETENT BOOB. What a snob.


15 posted on 11/15/2008 3:37:52 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifinish attitude.e to the god of Convenience.)
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To: igoramus08
Maybe McCain had as many skeletons as Obama too?

Team Obama began cornering McCain during the later primaries. Recall when Team Obama strongly hinted at playing the race card at McCain and McCain backed down? After that and into the general election, McCain so feared being labeled racist that he refused any political tactic that Team Obama could use to paint McCain as racist.

It worked against Clinton. It worked against McCain.

Neither Clinton nor McCain could find an effective way to fight having the race card played against them. Both cowered at each slightest hint that it would be played. And that cowering was enough to keep Clinton/McCain off stride and allow Obama the win.
16 posted on 11/15/2008 3:39:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Chinstrap61a

There is no doubt that John McCain is a hero. And I have the greatest respect for the man, and I voted for him. That being said, he ran one of the worst campaigns I’ve ever seen. He dropped the ball on so many occasions and blew so many opportunities; however, much of that can be laid at the feet of his managers and advisers. Still, as the top of the ticket, he is ultimately responsible, and he will be the first to admit that and accept the blame. The man is a class act; he is also a terrible campaigner.


17 posted on 11/15/2008 3:39:12 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It has to be Stockholm sydrome. It must leave permanent effects.

Everytime he would start to make headway in the polls, he would make some stupid comment to kiss-up to obama, and take all the wind out of his own sail.


18 posted on 11/15/2008 3:41:40 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: backhoe

Those ads ran in my market. Sadly, McCain did not carry it.


19 posted on 11/15/2008 3:46:27 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why is it that everyone who doesn’t sip at Governor Palin’s koolaid fountain have an agenda? geesh.


20 posted on 11/15/2008 3:49:00 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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