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Why Is Obama Paying Lawyers Instead of Producing Birth Certificate?
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Posted on 10/07/2008 2:02:58 PM PDT by moopie1

Why Is Obama Paying Lawyers Instead of Producing Birth Certificate?

Last week a Judge Ordered Senator to produce his birth certificate, Yesterday the Senator's lawyers have filed for a delay of the order. Now I know most people think that the "birth certificate" issue is as legitimate as the tooth fairy. But My question to them is, if it is so illegitimate, why is the Senator paying lawyers instead of just giving the birth certificate document to the Judge?

Berg is “Outraged” that Obama & DNC Hide Again Behind Legal Issues as their attorney files a Motion for Protective Order to “not” Answer Admissions & Production of Documents while Betraying Public in not Producing Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a candidate for President.

For Immediate Release: - 10/06/08

(Contact info and pdf of press release below)

Country is Headed to a Constitutional Crisis

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.

Furthermore, and actually more important is Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship that he received when he returned from Indonesia, as if it exists it would indicate that Obama was “naturalized” and also not able to be President.

The DNC has promised “we the people” an Open and Honest Government and has promised to uphold our United States Constitution. The DNC has failed their promise. DNC Chairperson Howard Dean should resign as he has not and is not fulfilling his responsibility of seeing that a “qualified” candidate is on the ballot as the Democratic candidate for President of the United States.

Berg stated that a response in opposition will be filed in the next day or so to the Defendants Motion for a Protective Order.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 21.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; obamavotefraud
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To: yldstrk
The hospital he claims to have been born in wasn’t built yet...................

Care to explain that a bit further?

The Kapi'olani Maternity Home has been around since 1890 and Queens Medical Center since 1859.

141 posted on 10/09/2008 8:05:34 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless
And it should REALLY be no surprise that as usual you're absolutely incorrect.

And your usually right on top of all the meaningless details. The photos were taken at Obama's campaign headquarters in Chicago. Not at Annenberg.

Big freakin' deal. Do I look like I care where they were taken? It's where they were Photoshopped that matters.

do your little victory dance, if it makes you feel better.

142 posted on 10/09/2008 10:26:07 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik
Big freakin' deal. Do I look like I care where they were taken?

You obviously cared enough to falsely claim that they were taken someplace other than where they were actually taken.

143 posted on 10/09/2008 10:35:39 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless; Polarik
Sorry, but the kind of pixelation surrounding the typeface is consistent with document that is a forgery, not a genuine CoLB.

Obama had the power to make this all go away by producing the document in court, but has chosen to fight this suit, tooth and nail, instead. The only reason to continue fighting is that there is something in the long form that he doesn't want the public to know about.

Get lost troll.

144 posted on 10/09/2008 10:58:03 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
Sorry, but the kind of pixelation surrounding the typeface is consistent with document that is a forgery, not a genuine CoLB.

Sorry, but that's just patently and factually incorrect.

The pixelation surrounding the typeface is entirely consistent with scanner and JPEG artifacts.

Here is a zoomed in image of "BIRTH" from the FactCheck Obama COLB scan:

And here is a zoomed in image "BIRTH" from the Michele COLB, which is not a forgery but is a scanned image of a genuine Hawaiian certificate:

As you can see, there is absolutely no fundamental difference between the two.

However unlike Polarik, I don't expect you to unquestioningly swallow whatever I say. I challenge you to verify this for yourself. It can be done very simply and easily and doesn't require anything more exotic than Microsoft Paint which comes with Windows.

Here is the scanned image of the Michele COLB that I used. It's a scan that was provided by Michele herself and is on Polarik's own PhotoBucket album:

SKMBT_C45008071717410.jpg

Just pull up the image in your browser, right click and select "Copy Image" (or the equivalent if you're using something other than Firefox).

Pull up Microsoft Paint, click on "Edit" and then "Paste."

Set the zoom to 8x and look at the pixelation surrounding the typeface.

Then do the same with the FactCheck image here:

BO Birth Certificate.jpg

Report back and let us know if you find any fundamental differences between the two.

Others of course are welcome to do the same.

145 posted on 10/09/2008 11:44:45 AM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless; Polarik
As you can see, there is absolutely no fundamental difference between the two.

Riiiiiiiiight.

Yep, someone could just as easily say that there is simply no *fundamental* difference between a decent counterfeit version of a dollar bill and a genuine Federal Reserve Note. "Fundamental", of course, is a relative term.

Well, I don't have Microsoft Paint ( I'm a Mac user ), so I used my Photoshop program to magnify the typeface on both CoLB's. And right off the bat I noticed that, yes, the pixelation on the Obama typeface was more pronounced than the Michele CoLB.

It's the intricate details that experts use differentiate the fakes from the genuine articles.

146 posted on 10/09/2008 12:55:05 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
Well, I don't have Microsoft Paint ( I'm a Mac user ), so I used my Photoshop program to magnify the typeface on both CoLB's. And right off the bat I noticed that, yes, the pixelation on the Obama typeface was more pronounced than the Michele CoLB.

Could you be a little more specific as to what you're calling "pixelation" on the Obama typeface?

I suspect that what you're referring to is JPEG artifacting which can differ significantly from one image to another depending on the level of compression used.

147 posted on 10/09/2008 3:29:44 PM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless

Hey dipstick, you came back. Why don’t you offer your services to the Obama campaign for their defense against the lawsuit.


148 posted on 10/09/2008 4:53:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Peerless

Hey queerless, how much is Obama paying you to try to debunk his fraudulence?


149 posted on 10/09/2008 4:58:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I think the point is that no one with any clout has asked Obama for his birth certificate. Or if they have, who was it? I’ve only seen any controversy about this on conservative websites, and now this kook with his lawsuit. Why doesn’t someone from the McCain campaign bring this up if they feel it is legitimate?


150 posted on 10/09/2008 5:12:09 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Beckwith

Where did you see his bar application?


151 posted on 10/09/2008 5:18:11 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: moopie1

I have a question, if there are any legs to this why doesn’t someone just simply go pay a visit to the Honolulu county registrar and request a notarized copy of his COLB? It’s real simple folks, otherwise this is nothing but b.s.


152 posted on 10/09/2008 5:24:52 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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To: Beckwith

Is that germane? Would it affect his ability to hold the Presidency?


153 posted on 10/09/2008 5:28:29 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Peerless
Oops number two. Just noticed I transposed the last two numbers of the phone number.

It's 916 457-7946.

Transposing the last two digits in a phone number is the most common error on a phone number.

Welcome to the human race...

154 posted on 10/09/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by null and void (I'm writing about all the things I ought to do before I die. It's my oughtobiography...)
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To: Polarik

Is this the same Annenberg that funded the Annenberg Challenge and supports McCain? What would be their motivation to cover for Obama when they are a prominent McCain supporter, if it is the same?


155 posted on 10/09/2008 5:44:47 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: pissant
Hey dipstick, you came back. Why don’t you offer your services to the Obama campaign for their defense against the lawsuit.

Why would they want me for that job when they already have Berg?

Seriously. If I didn't know any better, I'd think Berg was working for Obama and/or the DNC.

156 posted on 10/09/2008 5:52:43 PM PDT by Peerless
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To: Peerless

Yes, I can tell their CAIR lawyer seems thrilled by this lawsuit.


157 posted on 10/09/2008 5:55:46 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Crystal Cove
Why doesn’t someone from the McCain campaign bring this up if they feel it is legitimate?

Could it be because McCain wasn't born in America, nor in any US Territory?

158 posted on 10/09/2008 5:55:52 PM PDT by null and void (I'm writing about all the things I ought to do before I die. It's my oughtobiography...)
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To: GOP_Muzik
I have a question, if there are any legs to this why doesn’t someone just simply go pay a visit to the Honolulu county registrar and request a notarized copy of his COLB?

Mostly because BY LAW they cannot give just anyone a copy of your birth certificate.

Thre are right to privacy, and identity theft concerns.

159 posted on 10/09/2008 5:58:15 PM PDT by null and void (I'm writing about all the things I ought to do before I die. It's my oughtobiography...)
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To: null and void

I understand this that by law they can’t just give anyone a copy. But unless Hawaii is different that Georgia under the Freedom of Information Act they have to provide supporting documents with redacted pertinent information if you file correctly.

I’ve obtained a legal notarized copy, albeit redacted, of my former loony representative Cynthia McKinney under the FOIA. Unfortunately I found out she actually wasn’t born on Neptune.


160 posted on 10/09/2008 6:05:23 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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