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Obama's 'civilian national security force
eons ^ | july 15, 2008 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 07/23/2008 4:48:42 PM PDT by Born In America

Here's the real story. I found a source who put Quinn's report on the net:

Barack Obama is basing his plans for this civilian force on something whipped up by Canadian Senator Jacques Hebert, called the “Katimavik“. Katimavik is the Inuit word for “commune”. Hebert, an admitted communist and avowed socialist, was a big supporter of the USSR and communist China as far back as the 60s and 70s. In the late 70s, he came up with the idea for and initiated Katimavik, in an attempt to get rid of Canada’s version of the ROTC, the volunteer military cadets. Hebert called his Katimavik a “people’s peace brigade” (hello, China!).

Hebert’s organization eventually did replace Canada’s cadet programs as the country continued moving to the left. The program meant 2 years of unpaid service in return for a college education paid for by the taxpayers, regardless of grades or criminal history (those gentle Canucks). The “service” rendered took place in bureaucratic jobs, as the young people also took government-provided classes about the ‘proper’ operation of government, systems of government around the world, and other multi-cultural/global citizen type education. Katimavik members were also required to learn two languages other than the ones they already spoke (generally English and French).

Other than government-education, not being paid for work, forcing taxpayers to pay for the education of children not their own (twice over!), and indoctrinating young people into a bureaucratic state of mind while removing a proud, patriotic love of country, not bad. Especially when one recalls that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao installed these sorts of programs too, complete with mandatory enrollment.

When the conservatives regained power in the 80s, Katimavik was ended due to its clear communist heritage. Unfortunately, in 1985 the program was reinstated when the lefties took charge once again.

This is Barack’s inspiration for his “civilian national security force”, though there are some key differences. Barack may have gotten this idea from his avowed Communist mentor and CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis, who called this sort of thing a “heroic and necessary program for America”.

According to Quinn, Barack’s own youth peace brigade (in addition to healing powers, I suppose) is meant to get youth involved with and in the government, but not in the time-honoured, or at least Founding Fathers intended, American fashion.

First of all, Barack intends it to be mandatory for all Americans. They are to serve two years, without pay, after high school and before going to trade school or college. Of course, that education will be paid for by the American taxpayer, and I presume living expenses during the two years of work will be supplied by We, The People as well.

Though this sort of thing is nowhere supported in the US Constitution, it does get millions to work for the government, without pay no less, and means a yearly expansion of government, bureaucracy, and fatter cloven hooves in Washington. It is also a way to reinstate the draft without saying so, and without paying anyone. Unsurprisingly, the NAACP, civil rights groups, and black liberation ‘churches’ love this plan, as do the Muslim groups.

According to Jim Quinn’s source, it is the Obama’s intention to cut the (paid and very highly skilled) US military by ninety percent. That is not a typo on my part, as difficult to imagine as it is. The budget will be cut by 50% (the other 40, I presume, can pay for those youths in the civilian security force). The youth peace brigade/national security force members will go through boot camp and then service with no pay. As I said Friday, this is clearly a way to undercut support for the military, and as Jim pointed out on the air today, a way to keep socialist, Marxist, and Islamist leaders around the world safe from the butt-kicking arm of the United States.

Jim closed by noting that the world is very excited about the idea of a “neutered America at the hands of Barack Obama”. Doubtless Ahminajihad, Chavez, Kim Jong-Il, communist China, and other assorted tyrants and dictators are thrilled, because with such a hamstrung military and an unpaid “security force” made up of those who are forced to serve regardless of ability, no one will want to go to war with these bastards no matter what they do: nuke Europe, nuke Washington, take out Israel, whatever.

In a nutshell, this means that you and your children would be forced by Barack (and Michelle, because let’s face it, she’s more frightening than Obama, and that is saying a LOT) to “serve your country”, unpaid, all while sitting in classes meant to encourage you to thoughtlessly trust in, depend upon, and support the government, and God only knows what else.


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Heard this on "America's Morning Show", Quinn and Rose the other day. Seems to fit with the Obama's and their convuluded view of America.
1 posted on 07/23/2008 4:48:42 PM PDT by Born In America
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To: Born In America

Does anyone really believe that the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful are going to provide two years of service.
The children of the elite will somehow be exempt and will be able to go to the ivy league and other top colleges immediately upon graduating from high school.


2 posted on 07/23/2008 4:53:45 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Born In America

Hey, Obamessiah — you can take your idea for national socialist youth groups to do slave labor and stick it back where the sun won’t shine!!


3 posted on 07/23/2008 4:54:27 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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To: Born In America

Jesus everloving Christ.


4 posted on 07/23/2008 4:55:23 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Born In America

Obama and his supporters are little totalitarians. You’ve been warned.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 4:59:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: Born In America; Enchante; snowrip; Maine Mariner
re: Obama's "civilian national security force"

Elmer Fudd Fan Club ping.

6 posted on 07/23/2008 5:01:29 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Born In America

Does he really think he could pull something of this magnitude off without causing another civil war?


7 posted on 07/23/2008 5:06:27 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Born In America

Yeah, I can see America’s youth doing this. No way, no way will this happen.


8 posted on 07/23/2008 5:06:40 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Maine Mariner

I can assure you that my sons are not going into some communist “service” program compulsory or not. I will go to jail and failing to enroll my children will be the least of the charges, if you catch my drift.


9 posted on 07/23/2008 5:07:20 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: Born In America

If Obambi tried something like this he’d be out of office within 48 hours, and I’m not talking about impeachment. I’m talking about a coup.


10 posted on 07/23/2008 5:07:31 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: popdonnelly
Obama and his supporters are little totalitarians. You’ve been warned.

It is a fact of life that leftists are latent totalitarians. They are given to controlling behavior, people are given to resisting control.

It is therefore inevitable that the left cannot achieve their Utopia without totalitarian authority.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 5:07:49 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Born In America; All
"Obama's 'civilian national security force' "

Oh yeah...it's commin' !!

Obama Gang-Bang Sign Language

12 posted on 07/23/2008 5:10:05 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Maine Mariner

Does anyone really believe that the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful are going to provide two years of service.

Of course, there will have to be “leaders” after all,
and two years service will look good on that party resume.


13 posted on 07/23/2008 5:14:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pepperdog
a continuation of yesterday's report of the July 2, Colorado speech!
14 posted on 07/23/2008 5:18:47 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Born In America

It would almost be worth putting up with an Obama administration just to be there when this inane idea is being bandied about in the media and Congress as a for-real proposal. To get rid of most of the Rats on the Hill we really NEED something like this to come to a vote someday. When we get that poll that comes in in which the “undecided” measure less than 1 percent, that’s when we got ‘em.


15 posted on 07/23/2008 5:41:47 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Born In America
If you go back and listen to Obama's speech to blacks (NAACP?) you'll detect an authoritarinism in his voice that would ultimately lead to Jesse's "cut his nuts off" comment.

I'm with Jesse here. This punk negro/Mugabe wannabee needs to be shown the door in November in numbers that'll make America proud. This country isn't about to elect a Marxist, gun grabbing, inexperienced Black to the office of president. No effing way.

Hey Dems!, WTF were you thinking? You had this election cycle in the bag! You could'a been a conteder?! You're about to get your asses handed to you by John McCain, for crying out loud! Your youthful marxist contender is about to lose to the oldest son of a b*tch that has ever run, 'cause he's an American. Your candidate's un-Americanism runs so deep it's unbelievable, and yet you get behind him. At least with Hillary, you could have faked it. "Fake America Out, Vote Democrat" ought to be your slogan.

My god, I never would have thought the Left would put Mao or Stalin on the ballot, but they have. Kicking this phoney through the goal posts of life will have an added benefit: the Left will pick a candidate less inclinded to diss our country. Pretender do doubt, but pretend they must. And just like everthing else, they can pretend the problems have gone away.

16 posted on 07/23/2008 5:55:20 PM PDT by budwiesest (Four ninths of our Supreme Court can't read.)
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To: Born In America; All
From Barack Obama's official website:

“I wanted to make an art piece of Barack Obama because I thought an iconic portrait of him could symbolize and amplify the importance of his mission. I believe Obama will guide this country to a future where everyone can thrive and I should support him vigorously for the sake of my two young daughters. I have made art opposing the Iraq war for several years, and making art of Obama, who opposed the war from the start, is like making art for peace. I know I have an audience of young art fans and I’m delighted if I can encourage them to see the merits of Barack Obama.”

-Shepard Fairey
http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/po26951.htm

See? It's all about "peace, love, togetherness" and "change".

Here are some of Fairey's other masterpieces. No joke. Most of his works are along these same lines. Check the link.



Source:
http://jonathanlevinegallery.com/?method=Artist.ArtistDetail&ArtistID=F65EBB86-3048-28EB-92D55AA4FC996E31&GalleryID=82C33C59-3048-28EB-92DB386C8C733405

17 posted on 07/23/2008 6:28:11 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: Born In America; All
From Moore's website, Monday, April 21st, 2008...

My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore

Friends,

I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.

So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php

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Michael Moore (quote), from his own website, April 14, 2004...

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?"
[actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14

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The Communist Party USA (CPUSA):
"We are a party of unity in action. We are an integral part of every struggle and movement for change to eliminate poverty and joblessness, against racism and for full equality. We are participants, initiators and leaders of every movement to make life better now and much better in a socialist future." Yeah, so they supported an oppressive dictator, like the Repubs and Democrats haven't? The CP is still around, has apologized for that whole Stalin thing, and has a quickly growing youth section.
[see: MichaelMoore.com-->Links-->PoliticalAction (bottom of the page--CPUSA promo)]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/links/index.php?linkType=Political%20Action

18 posted on 07/23/2008 6:28:15 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: Born In America; All
November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline

Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971

From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."

Source for most of the Jane Fonda material:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm

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From RushLimbaugh.com:
Hanoi Jane Endorses Obama
April 3, 2008

REPORTER 1: Jane, who are you voting for?

REPORTER 2: Who gets your vote?

FONDA: Obama.

REPORTER 2: Oh, my God. Heaven help us all.

RUSH: The reporter for TMZ said, "Oh, God. Heaven help us all." Obviously the reporter is an Obama supporter.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_040308/content/01125111.guest.html

19 posted on 07/23/2008 6:28:19 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: Born In America; All
"God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"


20 posted on 07/23/2008 6:28:20 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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