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To: Calpernia
This was day one of the Press Conferences. Andy Martin has one scheduled everyday this week. Patience with your questions]

The food fight last night was quite unfortunate. None of it sheds any light on the substantive issues here and it likely detracts serious critics.

#3395 is a fair summary of the technical. The forms posted purporting to be Birth Certificates are not actual reliable certificates of public birth records. The possibility may exist that Obama was born in Hawaii but I read the current record as casting real doubt on that question which is one of the two significant substantive issues, the second being, if he was born in Kenya, the marital status of his parents.

I am concerned about the Martin book--if it is poorly done, it will damage the effort to initiate a real investigation on the question of whether Obama is eligible to serve as President. The crucial question is whether or not Martin has had access to birth and marriage records obtained in Kenya--if yes, everything else in the book pales in significance; if no, the book is simply another delay.

His first publicity line about illegitimacy is a bad sign because it indicates that he doesn't understand the legal or the practical political. Illegitimacy is the least of Obama's problems--no one cares; it may well be a plus on the eligibility argument. I believe over half the children born in America are illegitimate--a sad commentary on the state of our society but not a substantive political problem for a candidate whose parents were not married.

Obama has told many other lies of substantive impact; his parents marital status is important only to the extent it affects his citizenship.

Nothing we can do about it at this point so we will wait for Thursday to see.

3,397 posted on 07/14/2008 6:34:55 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

>>>The food fight last night was quite unfortunate. None of it sheds any light on the substantive issues here and it likely detracts serious critics.

Of course. The Obama crowd want this thread to either get pulled, locked or moved to the Smokey Backroom. That will keep it from coming up in search engines.

>>>>I am concerned about the Martin book—if it is poorly done, it will damage the effort to initiate a real investigation on the question of whether Obama is eligible to serve as President. The crucial question is whether or not Martin has had access to birth and marriage records obtained in Kenya—if yes, everything else in the book pales in significance; if no, the book is simply another delay.

I do agree with that. I have the book pre ordered and will read it in it’s entirety before posting excerpts.

>>>His first publicity line about illegitimacy is a bad sign ...

Yes and no. If the MSM was an even playing field, outrageousness would not be necessary. But, the MSM creates an uneven delivery of information. Therefore, being off color is a way to be picked up.

>>>Obama has told many other lies of substantive impact; his parents marital status is important only to the extent it affects his citizenship.

Not true. It is important to show the layer of bricks of lies he has personally built. Each one needs to be removed.


3,398 posted on 07/14/2008 6:44:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David
The possibility may exist that Obama was born in Hawaii but I read the current record as casting real doubt on that question which is one of the two significant substantive issues, the second being, if he was born in Kenya, the marital status of his parents.

And what is his REAL name?

His first publicity line about illegitimacy is a bad sign because it indicates that he doesn't understand the legal or the practical political. Illegitimacy is the least of Obama's problems--no one cares; it may well be a plus on the eligibility argument.

Indeed. Obama has admitted to election fraud and forgery at the very least.

He clearly didn't/doesn't foresee the clear consequences of this admission. Anyone who can't foresee such an obvious result of his own actions has no place anywhere near "the button"!!!

He's toast.

On soooooooo many levels.

Boot Toot!

3,426 posted on 07/14/2008 8:28:24 AM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: David; SE Mom; pissant; expatguy

Follow up on:

>>>>>>>>I am concerned about the Martin book—if it is poorly done, it will damage the effort to initiate a real investigation on the question of whether Obama is eligible to serve as President. The crucial question is whether or not Martin has had access to birth and marriage records obtained in Kenya—if yes, everything else in the book pales in significance; if no, the book is simply another delay.<<<

You weren’t the only one with that concern, in which I agree with anyway. I also just preordered Jerome Corsi’s book which also features ExPatGuy’s story that he did investigative work on for his blog.

We will have Corsi’s coverage, Andy Martin’s coverage and ExPat’s investigative work to compare.


3,469 posted on 07/14/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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