Posted on 05/18/2008 4:11:08 AM PDT by nutspea
If Tibet is part of China, how did all of these people who can’t speak Chinese end up there?
well I have seen your links,but what you provide are some material digested by CNN( I am sorry to tell you that in CHina ,CNN is as disreputable as CCTV,the official throat of Chinese government)
you mean the arm-sale ship reported widely?
well, according to some bbs in CHina, the arm-sale to Zimbabwe was arranged by a gainful CHinese privilidge businessman like the lord of war,instead of Chinese government.
In fact, CHinese government also felt very annoyed by the stupid deeds of the gainful businessman.
You're telling me nobody in the Chinese government knew about this? Every third world hell hole on the face of this planet is chock-full of Chinese AK-47's and riddled with cheap Chinese land mines.
Chinese have no right to watch CNN, they only have right to anti CNN.
“If Tibet is part of China, how did all of these people who can’t speak Chinese end up there?””
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well, guy,how silly what you said is !!
In USA ,there are also many guys who can’t speaking english.
As I know, iN chinatown,many CHinese can not speak english.
China is a multi-ethnic country.
In China,quite a few ethnics minority can not speak Mandarin..... .In fact, lots of old Han-CHinese can’t speak Mandarin either.....
here,In Guangzhou or Shenzhen,if you are ready to pay additional relative fee ,you can watch CNN,BBC or other channels....
But I don’t think many chinese would pay for it,because they can’t catch english talk.
I often surf on the website of CNN,BBC and here....but according to the website of CNN, CNN really deserves the disreputation that can match CCTV in CHina.
do you know how disreputable CCTV is in CHina? people sometime call CCTV “CCAV”( China center Adultery Vision),which means CCTV is as dirty as Adultery Vision.
Now, CNN is honoured to be in the same league of CCAV....
of course somebody in CHinese government know it.but it is not strange at all that China’s ministry of foreign affairs didn’t know about it until western medias exposed it.
personally speaking, I think the arm-sale may be connected with Baoli Company,led by the son-in-law of Deng Xiaopin, the former top leader of CHina.
I am from China and I know exactly about CCTV.
“People have no right to watch CNN, people only have right to boycott it” is a popular dictum spreading over ChinaNet.
Well of course there are. They came here from somewhere else!
Where did all of these people who can't speak Chinese come from?
And this is how the Chinese government provides “prosperity” for the Chinese people, while telling the rest of the world how poor they are and asking for handouts?
Yes it is simple. 1. They greatly fear the Chinese police and army. 2. Tibetans are very compassionate as it has been a way of life for them, throughout society, for centuries.
The Main participants in the riot were the young peasants in rural area. Why? because those young tibetan peasants benefits much less from modernization than those Tibetan citizens,due to the lonely location and less education.
What were very poor rural kids doing in the city then? If they hang out in the city then they are not rural kids.
the leaders of the riot are the monks
That is false. Every report shows that the monks were protesting peacefully until others started the riots. As I showed you in a previous link the ones who started the riots were Han Chinese policemen disguised as ethnic Tibetans.
Chinese Regime Implicated in Staging Violence in Lhasa—UPDATED
Not a single one of my five links has anything to do with CNN. You’re lying.
90% of the businesses in Lhasa are owned by Han Chinese so it is not only rural peasant Tibetans who are being left out.
guys I welcome you coming to Tibet to see what is really happening here, this will tell you the truth instead of western media.
And, I hope this discussion can be closed. It makes me sad to see you guys with so little Chinese history but muttering so much about Chinese affairs, all the arguments that you used for support is from your western media, not a single piece from the third-world media.
I have no interest to continue this discussion, as long as you see china from the eyes of your media instead of your own eyes.
By the way, let me provide with you a different voice, if you have interest, It is written in english, http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/en/ it is not for anti-CNN now, but try to tell the other people what is really happening in China. Hope your media can stop blinding the mass and reveal the truth. Poor Americans. when chinese netizens search the google with both chinese and english version to listern different voice and make up conclusion by themselves, you are citing documents from your english media with little resistance.
Stop this discussion, please. When the whole country is mourning for those suffering in quake, I feel guilt to discussing here with no results can be drawn from.
Please stop discussion now. One of you even list the world map in Tang dynasty, poor guy, in that time North America completely belongs to indians, then tell me how can you free this indians from their reserve?
Again, please stop discussion on this thread now. Pleaes.
You didn't bother to read my posts or you would know that I'm not getting my information from the media. I get it from Tibetans. Some who lived there when China invaded. Others who have reported their stories after escaping as recently as last year. I get information from Xinhua news and other English language Chinese news and blog sites. And from many other sources. You are the one who has limited access to information not me.
Stop your pathetic whining about how we get our news "only from western media." Sorry, kiddo, we get a lot more than that. You just can't support your claims.
Just so you know; another one of my sources is from Americans who have been to Tibet and have asked the ordinary Tibetan person what is happening there. The first thing every Tibetan says is “It is dangerous for me to talk openly.” The second thing they say is “Do you have a picture of the Dalai Lama I could have?” Then they all say they are mistreated and afraid for their lives. They all know someone who has been put in prison for speaking against the Chinese government or for practicing Buddhism. That is what westerners who go to Tibet all say who get the chance to talk privately with Tibetans.
I put the map of the Tank dynasty up. You tell me when China ever controlled Tibet before 1950. ??? That is what the Hu Jintao clique says. That Tibet was always part of China. It’s a lie.
You brought it up.
HAHA evil western media propaganda. You should immediately apologize to the Chinese people for the this obvious affront to their national history. If I show this map to my students this is the reply I would get. They would then pull out some old Chinese history book to refute what is on this map.
Here is the logic.
Gangis Khan attacked and took over China. At this point he becomes Chinese. So any other country he attacks and takes over is forever Chinese. Khan did attack and defeat the Tibetans therefore they are now also Chinese. They will never admit that the Mongolians controlled China.
Even later when the Manchu take over China they use the same stratagy. The Manchu upon taking over China become Chinese. therefore, any land that was Manchu is now China’s.
I will present them with the fact that Khan controlled half the world including Russia. Does that mean Russia is part of China. They will reply with a straight face. “It should be”
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