Posted on 05/18/2008 4:11:08 AM PDT by nutspea
I do not know if this article suit to be posted here, but I just want to speak something.
Today when I went to NYT and an review attracted my attention, title "fed up with peace" (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/opinion/18kristof.html). This article frightens me. There it covered a monk who claimed that he( Dalai Lama) has been too peaceful over the China, and they should take some actions more violent, especially when he is gone. It depicts that this impatience seems widespread among young Tibetans , and remarks that the Dalai Lama should return Tibet as a spiritual leader and own more rights. Most important, it also observes, that China government should stop sending Han migrants to all Tibetan areas, to preserve their Tibetan character.
After finished reading I think there is a need to leave comments. To prevent wasting the time, I just want to ask the author one question, that is: You call for more rights to Tibet, but did you ever ask yourself such a question that to whom is this freedom belong? To judge the affairs in Tibet one must consult the history instead of vainly murmuring about the present. Don't you think it's weird that in the process of "free Tibet" movement only several monks and oversea persons stand up, instead of masses of Tibetans? After informed yourself with the past history of serfs in Tibet when ruled by these Lamas, could you tell me to whom is this freedom would be given if the Tibet is once again ruled by monks?
About the last remark of migrants, it makes me a little confused that as I can remember American always support culture diversity and communication. One thought in your head and another in mine, but if we make changes there go more than two. The same, the collision of culture will result more thoughts and help both the Han people and Tibetans, isn't it? Does it benifit the Tibetans more by isolating them?
“Furthermore, such lynches are not special to Tibetan,but also to any ethnics.”
LOL...that ChiCom “fairness” for you!
You just contradicted yourself. First you tell us how poor Tibet is, how uneducated Tibetans are and they don't take advantage of the schools you give them and how many special privileges you give them and how much it's costing to give Tibetans infrastructure. Now you say your only interest is in the prosperity of China. If it is costing such great treasure to "help" the poor, ignorant, superstitious, ungrateful Tibetans who can't compete with Han Chinese you should want to wash your hands of them and stop wasting Chinese money on them. Your bank manager should fire you for not understanding the most basic economic lessons.
I feel badly for your people. All people should be free. However I think I would free Tibet ASAP when & if you people ever get that govt out. Good luck to you. I am very sorry about the earthquake too & the victims. They are in my prayers as are the people of Tibet.
You really show how little you know with that. I am a Tibetan Buddhist and have been for ten years. We do not practice superstition or faith blind or otherwise. The Buddha teaches that actions have consequences. Something the Chinese are blind to. Go back to the kitchen god on your refrigerator and apologize for insulting superstition.
well, religion is not equal to superstition.
for example: to believe Buddha is religion.but to believe that eating dejecta of lama can cure disease is superstition.
But this propaganda style of answering questions with questions, making arguments of moral equivalence between their current history and our past history, accusations that we have only one source of information when there are no restrictions on our television, radio or internet, denying without argument or evidence objective information put to them and making absolute statements without any substantive or objective source to back them up is too much.
The really galling thing is that they have no shame when they are caught flat footed in their logic or are simply proved wrong. They don't care if they look ridiculous they just keep pushing on. I think they are trading on sympathy for their national tragedy to make friends here and we will see many more take up the CCP banner in the future.
I think their favorite news channel is MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann.
You just contradicted yourself. First you tell us how poor Tibet is, how uneducated Tibetans are and they don’t take advantage of the schools you give them and how many special privileges you give them and how much it’s costing to give Tibetans infrastructure. Now you say your only interest is in the prosperity of China. If it is costing such great treasure to “help” the poor, ignorant, superstitious, ungrateful Tibetans who can’t compete with Han Chinese you should want to wash your hands of them and stop wasting Chinese money on them. Your bank manager should fire you for not understanding the most basic economic lessons
1,the integrity of territory have precedence over the economy consideration.
in fact, the investment on Qinhai-Tibet railway and highroads to tibet can get repayed economically in forseeable future. But those infrastructures is very important to reinforce national defence.
2,In a long run, territory is invaluable asset.
don’t forget in 1867, most papers called Alaska “useless refrigerator” and were object to buy it...
But how about now?
don’t know if the mods even care about ChiCom trolls anymore. I have counted 107 Chinese sign ups since the earthquake on May 12th and two have been zotted that I know of. I am glad to have new FReepers from anywhere in the world who want to share their experiences with us if they will participate honestly. They don’t have to be right about everything and they don’t have to understand all about the U.S. or FR as far as I’m concerned.
hi guys, there will be more and more “chinse trolls” here.
Chinese 250 million netzens will not always be silent.
even only a few of them can write/read english,there will be still dozens of million “chinese trolls” like me.
you must get accutomed to it.you must get accustomed to a world full of CHinese voice.
Which just shows even more clearly that you know nothing about Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism or Tibetans. I don't even know what the word "dejecta" means. It's not an English word that I know of. But being unable to take personal responsibility for your own words and actions, the most basic requirement to practice the Dharma, you judge things you have no understanding of. Kind of like your nonsense about the Civil War and Abu Grahib.
My mind is clear and open from the practice of Dharma so I know more about your country and even more about you than you do. You know all the bars of your cage in great detail but you don't know it is a cage. I don't know all the trees and fields between Chengdu and Beijing but I see the reality you live when you travel it. This is probably what really bothers you and your kin about Tibetans. Even the poorest least educated among them has a clarity of mind and an enjoyment of life that you don't and you know you can't get it with all the money and education in the world.
I very rarely call a moderator and have only hit abuse once that I can remember but I think it would be appropriate to ping one to read post #168.
Oh, well I guess that changes everything.
By the way, who'd you buy that little piece of real estate from, and how much did you pay for it?
“Furthermore, such lynches are not special to Tibetan,but also to any ethnics.”
LOL...that ChiCom “fairness” for you!
yes,it indeed is a little different from the couterpart in USA.......In USA,jail and Lynches seems special to the black.....
do remember what T-bag said in “Prison Break”:” the Jail of USA is very in favor of the black in USA”
I'm betting he will not be amused.
Ping
Do you go to church with a kind of skinny black guy with big ears named "Barack"?
LOL Commies of a feather?
By the way, who’d you buy that little piece of real estate from, and how much did you pay for it?
The pay is the life of soldier that defended Tibet.
BTW,may I ask how much white paid for the land owned by Aboriginal Indian?
Oh...please. Stop equating your barbaric regime (the worst in human history along with the muslim caliphates) with civilized nations.
You really show how little you know with that. I am a Tibetan Buddhist and have been for ten years.
I don’t feel it at all.
your illusion how miserable tibetan live under the rule of Chinese has place an tag of pro-tibetan-independdence on you head .
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