Posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:10 AM PST by theothercheek
Second-tier presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) pulled off a first-rate fundraising coup, netting $4.3 million in online contributions from 38,000 donors in a single day, bringing his total haul to $7.3 million in 4Q 2007. No other Republican comes close to Paul’s 24-hour feat, but Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has him beat at $6.2 million.
Paul supporters flashed their cash in honor of Guy Fawkes Day, which commemorates the would-be assassin of England’s King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. Guy Fawkes was also the inspiration the novel-turned-movie "V for Vendetta," in which the lead character takes on a fascist government in England. In several GOP presidential debates, the libertarian Paul has all-but called George W. Bush a fascist – taking issue with the Administration’s policies on domestic spying, for instance.
So does this mean Paul has a shot at the nomination? In a word: Nah. The Stiletto agrees with WaPo political blogger Chris Cillizza’s: take:
Paul was widely seen as a political gadlfy when he entered the race, but through skill, luck or a little of both he has built himself into an Internet phenomenon. …
It's not yet clear that Paul's online national community can deliver actual votes for him. … While Paul is at the center of a national movement, it won't help him in Iowa or New Hampshire if thousands of people from California or Illinois are backing him. …
There has always been a pot of money that exists for unconventional candidates who believe the system is fundamentally broken and are only tangentially affiliated with a party. …
[H]is money and his message make him a actor in New Hampshire ... he remains a decided longshot ... the excitement and attention he is drawing would seem to be a perfect lead up to a third party candidacy if and when he loses the Republican nomination.
The Houston Chronicle reports that Jonathan Bydlak, the Paul campaign’s fundraising director posted a message on the candidate's Web site that the ka-ching means just one thing: “Ron Paul is for real." Maybe. But it appears his supporters are real (second item).
Note: The Stiletto writes about politics and other stuff at The Stiletto Blog.
Soros thought he could buy the presidency for Kerry, he was wrong. Money doesn't guarantee you'll get anywhere, especially when your candidate is an assclown.
You have missed President Ahmadinejad and his “Israel should be wiped off the map” road show...*****
No, I didn’t miss that. As I understand he meant the state of Israel, not the people. Nor was it meant in a way that Iran was going to nuke it out of existence.
*****I guess you have missed out on the stonings of young women in the very “progressive” Muslim culture of theirs.****
No, I am appalled by all brutality. Neck tieing with burning tires, crucifixions in Sudan, China shooting down the protesters in T Square, killing the monks in Burma, etc.
*****Most of all I guess you have missed the Iranian arms and personnel that have been reported in Iraq, keeling OUR men and women.*****
No. That has been part of the beating of the drums for war against Iran. However, what I have heard is that most of that is coming from a rebel group that controls a lot of the area of western Iran. A group that may have been supported by our CIA in order to over throw the present government. As far as I know, it has not been connected to the official government.
I do know that most of the foreign fighters caught in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia. Do you know what we do with them after we catch them? We send them back to “posh” re-education camps in S.A.
A few questions because according to you Paulinati I am “small minded”
The man wants to wipe out just the “State” of Israel? How does that work exactly? The state is wiped out and the Israelis just hover over where it was?
The man has said death to the US also, so I guess I am ok since here in Mississippi I won’t have to hover as high as say the folks in Denver...
Also your answer on the Iranian weapons is interesting. Again, I am “small minded” but to me the reports of Iranian weapons are quite clear. I also have some second hand knowledge of such from several very close friends who have actually been on the ground there. So are you saying this is a CIA plot or at least blaming them, or am I missing something...
nice example :) , but dont forget, when it comes to ignorant vice taxes, paul’s more conservative than any other candidate, and even with californias tax stupidity, in no way does it equal blackmarket drug crime.
That’s a cool story though, i hadnt heard it before, just another example of the unintended consequences of government gone wild.
You cant pretend to know that. We have potentially alienated what may have otherwise been someone or some organization that would have sold out quite nicely prior to the invasion.
Paul suggested 1 billion, which is substantially more than 50 million, and still would have been much cheaper in the long run.
As far as 21st century warfare, on our side it is, but the taliban is still using mid-cold war weapons.
yeah it does. 70% of independants is a much larger population base than the remaining 65% of republicans.
70% of independants is larger than 100% of republicans. follow?
Intellectual cop out, with an ad hominem, and without substance, followed by an appeal to the status quo. In other words, save the electrons for when you have something to say. Anything at all.
He came damn close, and that with backing a candidate that had all but declared war on american citizens.
Paul’s in the liberty game, and it has much stronger appeal.
I’m not saying Paul can buy an election, I’m saying if he can overcome the establishment doing their damnedest to keep him from winning, and be judged on merit that he will win.
Ok...
Let me get this straight, he call’s me small minded and I am in the wrong....
I was right in the other thread just now, where one of your Paulinati buds got the zot, you guys do live in Fantasy Land...
Enjoy the ride...
The picture is a snapshot of Ron Paul's support, and it's quite real. LOL!
respectfully, i feel that’s a cop out.
Your argument is in essence:
I’m not a single issue voter, but on the single issue im judging by i disagree.
On the economy:
I agree in fiscal conservatism, but only as a motto, never in reality, plus he can’t actually effect any change.
My response:
I’m not going to debate you on the issue of war. I will say i was for both afghanistan and iraq, and that i believe our interests in iraq are best served by an orderly withdraw over the next year. I believe we won roughly the moment Saddam’s neck snapped, and are suffering now from not properly defining the conditions of victory.
I fully support our troops, having a brother that is a navy seal and deployed in iraq currently, and a long tradition of military service in my family. I’m not an anti-american blame america first loon.
So much power has been coopted by GW to prosecute the war that it’s frightning. I’m a long time conservative, I doubt seriously Bush is going to do anything that’s seriously going to effect an average americans ability to function on a daily basis.
But the reality is in the next year or so, someone else is going to be holding the reins and no later than 8 years after that, someone else. Will they be trustworthy with this accumulated power?
Do you trust Hillary to use the powers of the patriot act in defense of the country, or will it be more likely a tool against the american people? I know where i fall on that spectrum, and people like me will be a target for her administration.
Do you support Hillary having the right to use warrantless wiretaps on american citizens? I damn sure don’t.
We are a military force unlike any in the history of mankind, in our power and force projection. We don’t need to slowly become a police state internally to prosecute an effective war. Especially when we have more dangerous domestic threats to our liberty.(as i believe hillary, and the national ID and the implant a chip like the mark of the beast crowd is.)
Make no mistake, if the republicans nominate a pro-war president, the democrats will win. Rudy will not beat hillary. Guiliani is no conservative, he’s pro abortion and pro-gun control, he’s more liberal than clinton ever was.
Paul is not only consistent with conservative values, he can win. All it takes is for self labeled “conservatives” to vote their values, and listen to what the candidates really stand for.
Paul’s not a pacifist and im damn sure not either, you don’t have to be to support him.
On the economy:
Will Paul eliminate the IRS? I hope he can, but it’s not likely. What is likely is that the senate and congress will be controlled by democrats, and a democrat president on top of that will mean a sad day for the united states and her people.
Paul can veto the hell out of the ignorant bills likely to come from the legislature, and he will. They don’t call him Dr No for nothing.
One thing he’ll do is deconstruct all of the executive powers Bush has accumulated over his terms, like it or not, you’ll thank him the day that a democrat president is in office.
He will also have a huge sway over monetary policy, and he can effect a very positive change on our economic situation solely through vetoing out of control spending and limiting real inflation.
The dollar is crashing as i type this. China is funding our M.E. expedition, and they just announced they were going to diversify their holdings, which means they’re about to start buying euros. People keep talking about “acting like a superpower”, we are, we’re acting like Rome in it’s last days, “as the currency goes so goes the empire”, i believe that was Plebius.
We are making the same mistakes of the soviets, every day moves us closer to socialism, our currency is on the ropes, and we are spending blood and treasure in other countries to impose our vision of government.
We are better than that. We used to be, and we should remain so.
As before, you refer to someone else, and somehow think that relates to me. Are you personally responsible for every conservatives shortcomings? Does that mean(since you must blindly believe rudi is the gops man per the party line) you support cross dressing? Of course it doesn’t
I’m right here. Speak to me.
No question, it’s a big tent. Liberty’s a damn big tent man.
Do you think everyone that supports rudi is a God fearing conservative with integrity and moral fortitude? I doubt that seriously.
Israel has more nukes than all its neighbors combined. Israel will be fine. No one supports stopping the arms sells to Israel, Paul supports stopping the foreign aid, and Iran having a nuke is not the end of the world, the Paki’s have plenty of them and they’re quite a bit more likely to “go nuclear” than the persians.
If we continue to prop up these backward nations then they will never be forced to reform their government. If you honestly believe in the american vision of freedom then support it, and quit endorsing paying other countries to maintain their oppressive socialist policies.
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