Posted on 08/07/2007 7:36:00 AM PDT by Calpernia
It gets a bit snippy, as it does when I invade Fredthreads, but that’s half the fun.
Very true. I've sent my $500.
We can support candidates like Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo, or we can sit by and watch the insiders eat our lunch as they promote Republicrats.
*applause*
I think that most people would be willing to cut illegals who have been here for many years - say 5 or more years - a break, especially if they had a family, were working and not on welfare, were paying taxes, had no criminal record and WANTED TO STAY HERE AND BE AMERICANS.
But as for the rest, we needn’t deport any of them. All we need do is start shutting down businesses that knowingly hire them and use the assets thereby secured to defray the apprehension, housing, medication and repatriation costs of illegals. We can also stop providing any benefits except immediate essential medical care for illegals here before we ship them back. We also must revise the “anchor baby” issue and stop people from using that as a ploy to gain permanent residence here. Do that and they will evaporate. We CAN and SHOULD start penalizing that government, i.e. Mexico, which actively collaborates in an effort to destroy our borders in a non-too very transparent attempt to reconquer what was lost in the 1850s.
If we need more workers, there are MILLIONS of people who would GLADLY come to America - LEGALLY and who would be more than willing to learn our language and eager to have American citizenship. That is FAR better than creating the kind of dangerous, unassimiliable, hostile, exploited underclass a “guest” worker plan would create.
The IMPORTANT thing is that our borders become defensible and nobody gets in here unless we clear them first and nobody stays unless we want them to.
I think a posture like that outlined above would gain support from most Americans and is something that would help Thompson and/or Hunter and ANY candidate for President.
And not as conservative as Dole either, frankly.
Ain't it the truth!!! It's especially painful to see Schwartzenegger claiming to be in the pattern of Reagan when even Jesse Ventura who was only famous for being famous at least had a short career in the Navy Seals to back up his fame for being famous!!!
Now I'll grant you all that Fred is a whole lot more experienced in the political world than either Jesse "The Body," or "Steroid King" Swortsnayger, love slave to a Kennedy!!!
But he's a Howard Baker protege in politics and Howard Baker laughed at Ronald Reagan's tax cuts calling them "nothing but a riverboat gamble!"
To me, this certainly puts Baker in the Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockyfeller Republican "country club Repub" catagory and that gives Fred a considerable amout of guilt by association and justifiably so!!! (which makes me terribly nervous and suspicious because that's NOT the Reagan-conservative wing of the Party!!!)
Everyone from Ron Paul to Rudy claims affinity to Reaganism. A simple review of their records in office shows otherwise.
From what I can understand, Mr. Thompson’s view of the immigration debacle falls out roughly like this:
1. Enforce immigration laws. Close the border. Keep new illegal immigrants OUT. It doesn’t make any sense at all to try to figure out what to do with the folks already here, if we don’t keep new illegal immigrants out.
Mr. Thompson has said that a nation that doesn't have control of its borders, and who may enter and who may not, is in danger of losing its sovereignty.
2. Count on attrition to reduce the number of illegal immigrants. Apparently, something like a quarter million illegal immigrants leave the US each year on their own. If we were to shutdown the inflow, the problem of illegal immigrants would grow smaller with each passing year.
3. Once we have control over our own borders, and we see who is staying and who is going, then we can figure out what to do next.
I think that Mr. Thompson is also in agreement that if we ultimately permit any of these folks to stay, they must assimilate and become Americans.
sitetest
“It gets a bit snippy, as it does when I invade Fredthreads, but that’s half the fun.”
Personally, I try to avoid getting snippy. I hope that I succeed at least part of the time. ;-)
sitetest
O.K. I’ll keep an open mind. Hunter is still my first choice, but I will vote for Thompson also if he runs and support him very vigorously if those are his positions on illegal invaders.
I support him for speaker of the house
BTTT!
“And not as conservative as Dole either, frankly.”
I disagree.
Mr. Dole was what used to be called a “green eye-shade” conservative. He was in some ways, a fiscal conservative, but what that mainly meant was trying to balance the budget. It didn’t necessarily mean slashing spending. It could also mean raising taxes.
Mr. Dole was skeptical of Mr. Reagan’s tax cuts, initially. He wasn’t any sort of supply-sider, or someone who viewed a large government with instinctive hostility. He wasn’t especially federalist. He was comfortable with a large federal government. Wasn’t it Mr. Gingrich who called him, “the tax collector for the welfare state”?
Mr. Thompson, however, is a federalist. He also seems to be persuaded that low taxes are immeasurably preferable to higher taxes, and of course, in that he’s a federalist, is less anxious to spend federal funds.
As well, Mr. Dole was,... ahem..., perhaps not the most convinced, or convincing social conservative, although he at least understood the need of the party to accommodate social conservatives.
I don’t think that Mr. Thompson is a thorough-going social conservative, but I think that to the degree that he is a social conservative, he comes by it sincerely. It’s not just a position to be adopted.
sitetest
sitetest,
if you don't want to be pinged, wouldn't asking to be removed from the Hunter ping list be a good first step?
I had no idea you were on the PING list. Sorry.
Where did I say that I didn’t want to be pinged?
sitetest
Why wouldn’t I be on the Duncan Hunter ping list?
I asked to be on it. In fact, if you ask Antoninus, I think he'll tell you I was among the first batch of folks to be on the ping list.
sitetest
Well, I'll betcha that if they were over there tryin to get the attention of history's greatest AM radio talk show host that singlehandedly saved AM radio, and you dropped in to distract and challenge, etc., They wouldn't be and certainly haven't been as nice to you as you just were to sitetest!!! (just for the record)
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