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To: Turret Gunner A20
I think each of us is smart enough to decide for ourselves if the following phrases are racist/biogoted or not. Go read the Book of Mormon (BoM) a few times and then go read these phrases from the BoM a few times.
 
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/12/23#23
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/5/21-22#21
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/morm/5/15#15
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/3/6,9,10#6
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/12/23#23
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/13/15#15
 http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/2/15#15
 
  Do you see any racism/bigotry in those passages?
283 posted on 06/12/2007 7:13:23 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: Degaston

re: 283

I thought we were talking about the bigotry of the Mormon bashers and the alleged heresy of the Mormons.


286 posted on 06/12/2007 8:20:07 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Degaston; Turret Gunner A20

Do you see any bigotry in these Bible scriptures?

(Ex. 21:2-6)

If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.

If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.

If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself.

And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:

Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

(Exodus 21:20-21)

And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

(Lev. 25:44-46)

Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

And for those who think it only appears in the Old Testament, consider the following:

(Colossians 4:1)

Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.

(1 Peter 2:18-21)

Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.

For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

And for those of the female persuasion, the Bible says thus:

(1 Corinthians 14:34-35)

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

(1 Tim. 2: 11-12)

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

I think the Savior said something about removing the beam from your own eye before you worry about the sliver in your neighbor’s eye.


289 posted on 06/12/2007 10:16:57 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: Degaston

Racism is ancient. BofM as well as the Bible are ancient texts. No surprise there. To me, if it wasn’t then it wouldn’t be authentic. :)


290 posted on 06/12/2007 11:06:56 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Degaston

Since you are on an apology kick, per se, I would expect you to ask Noah, Abraham, Job, Peter, James, and countless others to apologize too! :)


292 posted on 06/12/2007 11:11:29 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Degaston
Do you see any racism/bigotry in those passages?

Phooey on those: what about poor, ol' Emma??

 
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
 
 
 
 

311 posted on 06/13/2007 9:06:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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