Far Left: "So, what do we do, if the dems DON'T filibuster???????!!!!!!!!!"

1/13/06 | From the fevered minds of despondent libs

[dukeman]

This one from DU pretty much speaks for itself:

debbierlus (47 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:34 AM
Original message

So, what do we do, if the dems DON'T filibuster???????!!!!!!!!!

I don't want to pre-judge the dems plan on Alito, but I am absolutely terrified that they are just going to roll over AGAIN and let the final nail in democracy's coffin be hammered down.

IF this happens, I don't see what point there is to supporting the democrats. They will surrendered our very LAST hope of providing a check on Bush's executive power. They will have allowed themselves to become completely irrelevant. It won't matter WHAT they do next because they neo-cons will now OWN the courts. Alito will baptize Bush as dictator. Check mate.

I have that same pit in my stomach, nauseous feeling that I had when Bush stole both elections, only this time, it is worse.

WHAT DO WE DO?

This is it. The last stand.

I am really, really, really, scared.

And, most of America seems to be clueless as to what is about to happen.

debbierlus (47 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #1

15. I already contacted EVERY single democrat

And, demanded they filibuster.

I contacted everyone through my huge compiled mailing list (collected through the Kerry campaign days) and sent links, action alerts, etc....

But, I have really had it. The dems are ALLOWING this to happen. Just like they allowed Bush to steal two elections. ALL I ask is that they fight as hard as they possibly can...

I don't know what the point of supporting dems will be, if they refuse to fight. I don't understand the point of donating my money and time to campaign for them, when they allow the neocons to steal the elections....What is the use of donating hundreds of hours (which I did for Kerry) when they roll over in the face of election theft?

I have hung in and hung in and hung in.....

I would follow the dems to the end of the earth if they fight. If they don't???? What is the use of following them?

Does anybody really believe that the dems will take back the House or Senate? The Republicans will steal it? What is to stop them? The dems? They could face impeachement and jail time, if the dems take back Congress. Why on earth would anyone believe that they wouldn't do ANYTHING to stop this?

I am in for a fight. But, if the dems run and lay down their weapons, what are we to do????

atreides1 (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:37 AM
Original message

WHAT DO WE DO?????

We do the same thing that the founders did, after trying to use diplomacy to rectify the problms they were having with the previous king!!!!

sad_one (962 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:37 AM
Response to Original message

2. I'm afraid too
and I just don't know.

LeftNYC (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:37 AM
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3. I wont donate to Democrats...
I will consider a third party...

LoKnLoD (498 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:38 AM
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5. I don't think they will filibuster

they are putting all their eggs in the 2006 election, hoping to take control of one of the houses. IMHO

in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #5

9. If they want to take back Congress, may I suggest this to them?

FILIBUSTER! If they don't, their asses are finished.

The evoting machines will finish them off.

KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:42 AM
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12. Tantrums...Millions and Millions Of Tantrums

We can get all of us on the front steps of every Federal Court house and start crying and holding our breath.

Truth is this is what happens when you're the minority. Sadly the Democratic party allowed itself to get into this situation and now the options of stopping the ramrodding of this nominee and a lot of other wingnuttery extremely difficult.

Now those who scream doomsday and threaten to "leave the party" if ScAlito is confirmed seem to be cutting their own throats. Where to go? A third party? Go from 200 some Congresscritters to none? 30 some governors to zero? And which third party?

This is a tough time, but it's also one that's defining this country. The outrage towards not only this regime but the corrupt Repugnican party is growing. A lot of people who sat on the fence or ignored a lot of what was going on aren't any longer. Independents who gave fukstick booosh and the Repugnicans the benefit of the doubt in recent elections...that swung the balance...are now shifting in our direction. This wouldn't be a smart time to move away from them moving towards us, would it?

This episode, should ScAlito be rammed down our throats, should be a rallying cry to unite Democrats and make them work harder this year to outst Repugnicans and start the long comeback to majority status.
BOOHOOWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Webster Green (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #16

25. Our elections are rigged, and will be for the rest of our lives....
Sorry.

NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:49 AM
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22. Look at all the newbies in this post saying "change parties, don't donate to the DNC." Lots of similar types have been all over here for the past few days. Must be some kind of epidemic.

AZBlue (878 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #22

50. An epidemic more frightening than Bird Flu!

babylonsister (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:49 AM
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23. IF this happens, I don't see what point there is to supporting the democrats."

Huh? Does that mean you'll throw your hat in w/the repugs?

You need to make a decision and then fight for it, via LTTE's, e-mails, phone calls, etc. It's not going to be decided solely by Dems; they need to hear from their constituents.

Stop your hand-wringing, get busy, and don't give up!

debbierlus (47 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #23

30. I am not hand-wringing, I am ANGRY

Part of the reason the dems act this way is BECAUSE of us. What are the consequences when they ignore their most solid base? NOTHING. They know we will vote for them because we have no where else to go. Obviously, we will never vote Republican. And, there aren't enough of us committed to truly making a reform party - so this is what we get.

By talking about not supporting the dems, I am not saying give up. But, I am saying that the definition of idiocy is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again, getting the same results, and expecting DIFFERENT results. This is NOT working.

The Republicans have stolen our government. The dems won't even WHISPER that it has been stolen. They want to appear 'fair' to appease people who decide politics by 30 second t.v. ads.

The democratic party is BROKEN.

The only solution I see is for progressives to take over the democratic party like the right wing did to the Republican party. But, in this case, it would actually be GOOD for the country.

mutley_r_us (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:53 AM
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26. We start work to support and bring into the mainstream another left leaning party such as the Greens. There are several to choose from. And if large amounts of Dems abandon the party and switch to one of the smaller ones, we could make some progress.

NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #26

28. And that would insure the GOP keeps the power for another decade, minimum.

mmonk (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:57 AM
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31. I don't know.

I have to make a decision on what's best for my family. Sacrifice them and fight on or move.

Cloud Walker (241 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 11:57 AM
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32. Won't much matter what we do

but I will donate and volunteer for NARAL before any political party.

In some ways this all comes down to the fault of the American people, who voted for Rethugs and stand by while even our elections are stolen, who would rather lobbyists fund elections than have publicly funded elections.

alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 12:02 PM
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36. Reminds me of the line in The Usual Suspects

The cop asks Kevin Pollack's character: "What are you gonna do if you go back to prison?"

He responds: "I dunno. F*** your father in the shower, then head to mess for a bite to eat?"

That's my response to "What do we do if the Dems don't filibuster?"

yourout (486 posts) Fri Jan-13-06 12:53 PM
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52. As Jim Carrey said in Liar Liar...

"I am going to bend over and take it up the tail pipe."

C_eh_N_eh_D_eh (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-13-06 01:44 PM
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58. We get murdered before we leave the building...
and I imagine we get fed to the pigs.

[Fenris6]

Dear Moonbats: Don't write your congrees-critters, thats pointless, they'll just send you a form letter and ignore you. Cut out the middle-man and write to MoveOn and George Soros, they're the ones with the cash.

[PatriotGirl827]

Great graphic!! Thank you!

[Unomee]

Never ... they are all winners ... Good for Bush ...He's what we need ... I would vote for him again , He's Great

[Unomee]

Amen Bro ......

[dukeman]

The moonbats pine for the days of the 60's marches of the people. When the "Orange Power" folks were massing in the streets of Uhkraine last year all of our moonbats were green with envy. "Why can't we get big protest turnouts here?", they moaned. Silly moonbats....

[Cheburashka]

I doubt many of them ever leave their own houses let alone actually leaving the country.
---
They talk tough about leaving the country, but they never would. If they did they would have to learn a foreign language. Like Canadian.
"Oh, they don't speak Canadian in Canada? Like, what language do they speak there then?"

[Armedanddangerous]

You know, I just think it's a matter of time before one or more of them snap,get some guns, and take a few shots at republican officials.

They think they have the right to do what ever they want, because the think they know better than us. So, in their minds, it's the next logical step.

[dukeman]

Well, we already had the guy in Sarasota who tried to run over Katherine Harris with his car just before the 2004 election. But I agree with you, the more these 'bats feel painted into a corner, the more likely a meltdown is to occur.

[johnny7]

Nah... commissar in the NEA.

[dukeman]

This one is just great:

Skidmore (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-14-06 08:00 AM
Original message

Biden and that (#*($*#( baseball cap....

Everytime I think about that stunt, I want to scream!! #@$*(&Q$ fool. How dare he detract from an event that is hugely important to women!!! I'm seriously so po'd with that idiot right now that if he were standing in front of me I'd probably deck him.

[moose2004]

"I don't think they will filibuster, they are putting all their eggs in the 2006 election, hoping to take control of one of the houses."

I actually agree with this comment.

[dukeman]

I think you are probably correct as well. However, the far left activists are demanding a filibuster at the top of their lungs. Whatever happens on this issue could be a real turning point for the Dem party.

[dukeman]

Here's a real peach:

DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-14-06 08:48 AM
Original message

If Samual Alito is confirmed for the Supreme Court

it will be the final nail in the coffin of our democracy. The USA will soon be turned into a military state.

This is what is coming when BushCo solidifies their control of all three branches of government. This is why the stakes are so high.

There were lots of replies, but here's a real good one:

realpolitik (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-14-06 11:35 AM
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11. I predict that if Scalito is confirmed

we will have a court very much like Germany's in the 1930's. The SCOTUS will provide the 'legal basis' for ** to invade Iran. Within six months of that, we will have WW1 style mobilization of all draftable youth, war economies, and sedition detentions without trial of large numbers of Americans... oh yes, goodbye internet. The Samizdat of 2008 will be the scanner and the laser printer.

Then, when things go completely haywire (the EU, Russia, and China destroying our economy, and most of our troop in the ME) and we are backed into a situation not unlike Iraq in the 90's, we will be encouraged to have a revolt, in which millions of Americans will die, and who knows if the BFEE will be taken down.

Either that, or an asymettrical resistance will arise while everyone in the military is trying to hold the line in Iran and Saudi Arabia.