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DUmmie FUnnies 05-17-05 ("I'm pretty upset right now, and I need an explanation" ---Pitt)
DUmmie FUnnies ^ | May 17, 2005 | William Rivers Pitt, DUmmies, and PJ-Comix

Posted on 05/17/2005 12:04:34 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: Krodg

I think you have the 'all clear' now, so could you please tell us what information you are holding????????


1,941 posted on 05/18/2005 9:50:24 PM PDT by Proud 2BeTexan
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To: I_like_good_things_too; All

That's definitely a great start! Thanks.

I'm bookmarking for now. Am plumb tuckered out and I have another big day tomorrow. When I log back on late tomorrow afternoon, I'll see what's left to be done researching the list.

See everyone later.


1,942 posted on 05/18/2005 9:55:23 PM PDT by Purrcival (OK - Undie maybe NOT vindicated?)
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To: Proud 2BeTexan

BTTT


1,943 posted on 05/18/2005 9:55:35 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Let's exercise the "Byrd" option!)
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To: Repub4bush
My suggestion to you, is to stay far away from this thread as I see no positive input coming from your direction.

That is a flat out lie. I have posted many articles and have not questioned anyone here until I was challenged to call the bank and verify the checks.

1,944 posted on 05/18/2005 9:58:09 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: I_like_good_things_too

Thanks that helps alot. I just did an Alexa search and came up with 2000, but that's just where the words I searched for matched. Who knows?


1,945 posted on 05/18/2005 9:58:49 PM PDT by MisterRepublican (Donor-Verified PayPal Receipts Now! "Politicize My Plight")
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To: franksolich; KJC1
I'm going to wager a guess here before I get to the end of the thread.

Undie has been collecting from people since December for loot. I STILL think he has loads & loads of money he is sitting on from this & WHY did he never STATE he had cancer but let others shrill for him to raise loot?

1,946 posted on 05/18/2005 10:15:43 PM PDT by lutz (The AndyScam Saga Concludes?!)
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To: lutz

We keep asking these same questions, and no one answers.

Thgose who hint (wink wink) that they have the secret inside track to information the rest of us don't have (wink wink) don't answer this either.

I hope to God AndyS is not as sick as has been implied; and if he's not, this all will come out from under the rocks like so many silverfish scattering in the daylight.


1,947 posted on 05/18/2005 10:19:23 PM PDT by Scothia ( When something important is going on, silence is a lie.)
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To: Proud 2BeTexan
so could you please tell us what information you are holding????????

No, I can't until Speed gives his story. My info from the bank doesn't match what he is willing to give at this time...

1,948 posted on 05/18/2005 10:20:15 PM PDT by Krodg
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and....MARK!

sheesh, made it to the end.


1,949 posted on 05/18/2005 10:29:03 PM PDT by eyespysomething (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: Krodg

That makes no sense whatsoever. Who cares if it doesn't match? If you've got something to share with the rest of the class, share it!

We're all adults here.


1,950 posted on 05/18/2005 10:40:50 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Krodg

Once again:

1. Show us where you were called a liar.

2. Show us where you were told to keep quiet.

3. Post what you were going to post earlier.


1,951 posted on 05/18/2005 10:42:47 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: PJ-Comix
LOL!!! PJ you're still cracking me up! & this is getting better & better!! Best book i've EVER read!!

MARY!!!!! WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!?

Oh, and PJ - you've GOT to include all the thread's on the accompanying CD to go with the book!

1,952 posted on 05/18/2005 10:49:43 PM PDT by lutz (The AndyScam Saga Concludes?!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Again, checking out your home page. I love the quote from Lenin-- especially the last part.

"Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance." -- Vladimir Ilich Lenin"


1,953 posted on 05/18/2005 10:50:24 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: Krodg

I thought Speed had already given his story. There's more?


1,954 posted on 05/18/2005 10:53:43 PM PDT by Proud 2BeTexan
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To: I_like_good_things_too

By the way Choose Ye Day, I want to clarify I'm not suggesting that YOU are harping on anything.


1,956 posted on 05/18/2005 10:56:33 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: Repub4bush
Damn. I've been away all day and just now was able to catch up on this whole thread/ordeal. This whole thing has gotten weird, really weird, and that has set off some alarm bells in my common-sense department. Far from being allayed, my suspicions have only been augmented by these new twists in the case. Andy actually called speedy? That doesn't sit right with me; that makes no sense at all. If Andy is indeed only passively involved in the scam/botching of this "fund-raiser", then why on God's green earth would he call a Freeper? Who was it that convinced him to call speedy? Someone at CU, I think he said. Who is that though? Scott? How did he get in contact with Andy? How was he able to give speed's number to Andy, and moreover, why would he do that? It all makes absolutely no sense, and I think speed needs to give us a detailed report, nut just these little snippets of (mis)information. I'm not saying Speedy is culpable in any of this, but what he has described has shed absolutely no light on the situation. Frankly, I'm surprised that he is convinced so easily that Andy is telling him the truth. I know he's been busy lately, but he has to give us a much more thorough explanation for any of this to be taken without a large grain of salt.

Also, I tend to agree with commonguy's assessment. Something tell's me it was probably the real Andy that called speed_addiction, but I don't trust anything he says, no matter how sincere it sounded. There's too much bullsh*t that he's let spread around him that no one should take him at his word. There are too many oddities in his behavior, things that can't be explained away as the psychological effects of illness. Besides all the old questions that remain unanswered (how much he's collected in donations, why he never corrected the false diagnosis of cancer, how he has waited so long for surgery with a life-threatening condition, etc.) now there's this whole batch of new ones concerning his apparent disconnect at DU and a new affinity for those who have been against him all along. I don't trust him any farther than I can throw his chubby, cherubic body. And what the hell is going on at DU anyway? There's obviously unrest there, and Andy knows it. So why isn't he trying to save face with his buds Skinner and Pitt-head? They're the ones who could save his reputation at DU most effectively, assuming he's innocent. But I think he wants to dam the stream of information that reveals his scheming at its source, and that's with the FReepers and CUers who have personally gotten involved with unravelling the mysteries surrounding his dealings. He's doing this by wowing the seeds of confusion amongst us. Insidious, but brilliant. Then he expects all the rest of us to simply take it at face value and let the whole thing drop, and then eventually all the DUmmies will fall back in line and he'll be on their good side again, just raring to pursue the folly that is universal healthcare in America. And the story of his miraculous recovery that would have ended in tragedy if not for the generosity of his fellow DUmmies who are also fighting for free healthcare, will earn accolades in the media and will likely doom America to a socialized/dysfunctional system of healthcare.

It's much bigger than just DUmmies getting scammed out of their money. Andy is in the fund-raising business, and we would do good not to forget that. How could he have botched something this badly with all the experience he has? Surely he would have known how to organize a fund-raiser in a legitimate fashion. But he isn't, because he wouldn't be able to get the kind of funds and publicity he needs if he did run an honest bid for charity. If we don't stop him now, he'll become as unassailable as the Clintons in his obvious corruption. Could you image that little sack of puss as our President? I think that should be scary enough of a thought to make us all want to out him now while we still have the chance.

I also think it's high time we started organizing with some of the discontented DUmmies that are now flocking to CU for info on the matter. If we can get a large number of them who can prove that they've donated to Andy's Paypal account(s), we may be able to convince Paypal to look into it and perhaps reveal how much money has been amassed, or any oddities in the running of the account. I myself have no idea how it all works, but I'm sure others would be willing, and I know a lot of the DUmmies are disillusioned enough with the fund-raiser that they would accept help from anyone, including us. They do deserve to know where their money is going, after all. Of course it will take a lot of diplomacy to collaborate with them, and I think that's where our biggest obstacle lies.

I'd be glad to hear some feed-back on my thoughts. Am I just delusional and paranoid, or do I make any valid points? Just don't flame me, because I'm not attacking anyone personally here (except for the Undie Scammer, obviously). Thank you.

1,957 posted on 05/18/2005 10:59:54 PM PDT by Chappaquiddick Crawdad ("E unum pluribus"? Perhaps you meant "ex uno plures", or is that "stultus sum"? hmmm...)
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To: Krodg

I'm working on the timeline as quickly as I can and will post an update before I go to bed. Info sometimes comes in fast and furious and I want to verify before posting. My mom is here for the night (she lives several hours away and I only see her once or twice a year) so that's taken up most of my afternoon and evening. She's going to bed soon and then I'll have the rest of the night to myself. I'll work for 2 or 3 hours and then post what I have.

Cindie


1,958 posted on 05/18/2005 11:03:59 PM PDT by gardencatz (I'll stay it again. War stories and monster movies are educational, they're survival oriented.)
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To: Chappaquiddick Crawdad

The only part that seems completely crazy about your post is the part you suggest even the slimest possibilty of something like Undie being president. The only circumstance something like that would occur is after there have been "happy camps" in which a whole lot of americans have been placed.


1,959 posted on 05/18/2005 11:06:19 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: speed_addiction
This person talks to Andy, talks to me and then gives Andy my number. Andy gives me a call. For the life of me, I have no idea why he would do that.

Because he wants us to stop so he can get away with all his bling-bling?

1,960 posted on 05/18/2005 11:07:08 PM PDT by lutz (The AndyScam Saga Concludes?!)
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