Posted on 05/12/2005 8:41:37 AM PDT by Jay777
The ACLU is also conducting an ex-felon public education and mobilization campaign with affiliates in
Georgia, New Jersey, North Carolina and Southern California, to educate ex-felons about their voting rights and to encourage them to vote".Per ACLUFirst, let me ask you a question. Is voting a right or a privilege?.....MORE(Excerpt) Read more at stoptheaclu.blogspot.com ...
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Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org
Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org
American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org
The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/
Stop the ACLU Coalition (GREATLY ORGANIZED ACTIVIST SITE..PLEASE JOIN) - http://www.stoptheaclu.org
Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:
ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas
ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits
ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd
Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit
Additional information:
The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back
Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')
ACLU fulfilling communist agenda
Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings
See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU
This yahoo group just started on December 3, 2004 and is looking for new members
The Center For Reclaiming America (petitions to congress)
American Family Assn. Center for Law and Policy
"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produced the wealth: communism is the goal." - Roger Baldwin, ACLU founder, Harvard Reunion Book, 1935
"The establishment of an American Soviet government will involve the confiscation of large landed estates in town and country, and also, the whole body to forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers and so on." - William Z. Foster, ACLU co-founder and former chairman, Communist Party USA.
Let me know if you would like to join my ACLU ping list
American who have paid their debt to society should not be permanently disenfranchised Americans and should have the right to vote.
Inmates currently serving time do not have any rights.
Sure they do... they have the right to lift weights and keep in shape, they have the right to marry, they have the right to get 3 meals a day, they have the right to watch TV, read books and magazines, they have the right to receive free health care, they have the right to litigate, they have the right to get out on parole and reoffend and kill innocents. Why not the vote?
"American who have paid their debt to society should not be permanently disenfranchised Americans and should have the right to vote."
I couldn't agree more, but they should have to pay the full debt, ie no one on parole gets to vote either.
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I dont think felons who have paid their debt to society should vote. I really dont know why. Maybe it's a knee-jerk reaction, I guess. I think most ex-felons would vote for Democrats; therefore, the Dems would get a lot softer on crime, if that was possible. I think we are opening a pandora's box of political pandering if we let ex-felons vote.
I absolutley agree. I was aiming for sarcasm with my original post. I figure if someone has such disregard for the law in the first place then they shouldn't have a say in how the laws are made. Law abiding citizens should get the say in that process, not the neighborhood scumbag who for their own personal reasons would like..say...child protection laws softened.
Does that rambling make sense?
I totally agree. How do you think felons will vote on the issues that help to convict them? Rapists, child molestors, murderers et. al. Plus, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Lewis Farrakhan and David Duke will have a new constituency. Nope, let felons sit on the sidelines when it comes time to vote.
Theses are some great comments. I just don't see how this would pass. Voting is a privilege, not a right. What logic would allow those breaking our laws to determine and set the actual laws themselves? This is totally circular. The next thing you know, the ACLU will push for the rights of child molesters to legally adopt once paroled.
Well that kind of dates me I suppose.
When I grew up, the deal was simple, commit a crime, go to jail and lose your rights as an American. Your rights then were three hots and a cot.
People also believed then that a person having paid their debt to society, could rejoin that society as a citizen with all the rights and responsibilities therein.
We live a a bizaaro world now, where good men fear and criminals are emboldened.
Amendment XIV, Section 2:
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
States clearly have the power (but not the obligation) to deny the right to vote to anyone convicted of any crime, except failure to pay taxes (Amendment XXIV).
No, I would not extend the vote to incarcerated persons ever. I can see restoring voting privileges for commission of minor crimes, but not for major crimes.
What are state laws on this topic currently?
How many felons who don't figure out the basics of personal responsibility will complete their parole or probation without re-offending?
I suspect that a pretty high portion of the felons who manage to finish paying their debt to society are conservatives. Liberal felons, by contrast, never reform their criminal ways and thus keep going back to the Slammer.
"American who have paid their debt to society should not be permanently disenfranchised Americans and should have the right to vote."
Fully agree. If voting is merely a "privilege" then America is a communist country. When you've paid your debt, you've paid your debt.
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