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The Problem of Race in America
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Posted on 05/11/2005 6:42:47 AM PDT by DR GIBBOUS T HILL
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To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
We just need to throw more money at the problem. That will solve it.
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:46:00 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
We have not learned what to do about it. Well, for starters, we can stop inflicting the tragedy called "public education" on them.
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:46:20 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
To: mlc9852
Even to white eyes there is a certain gelded quality to a black executive speaking precise white English. Speak for yourself!
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:46:46 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
So it's all whitey's fault.
DR GIBBOUS T HILL
Since May 7, 2005
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
This is the same stuff we heard in the sixties and seventies. We spent all that money on the war on poverty to be back at the start line.
Oh well, they can all get Social Security for their tobacco and alcohol needs. We won't be able to.
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:48:36 AM PDT
by
Luke21
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
This isn't just a black issue. Every day at lunchtime in downtown Seattle, I hop on the bus or walk down the street and see dozens of people - white, black, Hispanic, Indian - even Asian - who very much appear to be part of a permanent underclass. They are often alcoholic, often drug-addicted, often mentally ill, but sometimes merely "unemployable" - so far out of the mainstream that it is almost impossible to imagine anyone hiring them for any job. I suppose this is nothing new - "the poor you will always have with you" - but it seems that their chances are in some ways worse than ever. This is a society where image and slickness mean everything, and where opportunities for manual labor are diminishing. I don't know what the solution is. And perhaps there's even a danger in looking for a "solution" - Hitler's "solution" was simply to exterminate all of the "unfit".
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
Go, say, to South Chicago (actually, don't: you wouldn't last an hour) where the city warehouses unwanted blacks in huge high-rise projects, ugly megaliths erupting from bleak concrete, with their own police stations and terrible schools with dropout rates of seventy-five percent. Built and funded by liberal democrats under the "Great Society Programs" - welcome to the Plantation!
Meanwhile hatred gathers in the urban blasted heath. The riots of Los Angeles could have happened anywhere. The people of the ghetto believe that whites are the cause of their misery, and they are, just under the surface, very angry. One day this is going to bite us.
Not as long as I can defend myself and my family...
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:49:52 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: MisterRepublican
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
The people of the ghetto believe that whites are the cause of their misery, and they are, just under the surface, very angry.
That is really a problem that only they can address.
One day this is going to bite us.
Its been biting them for forty years. Youd think they wake up and realize it.
The people who do find a way out of the cycle. The ones who don't are doomed for another generation, at least.
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:51:30 AM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
"They don't want to be white. They don't speak the bastardized English of downtown because they couldn't learn to say, "He is" instead of, "He be.""
Well, finally someone's admitting what I've long suspected; we're dealing with a studied insolence, not a basic incapacity.
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
White America doesn't grasp the magnitude of the underclass, its isolation, its hopelessness, its resistance to change. Or its anger.**************
Hey! I watch "COPS".
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:53:39 AM PDT
by
trisham
("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
WOW!! This one made me think. Notice how the author clearly and precisely laid out solutions for every problem and it wasn't just a race-baiting blame-whitey piece. What a literary masterpiece.
NOT
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:54:56 AM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
Whining won't help. And if black culture is so rich and vibrant how come all of these people, who populate these downtown ghettoes, are so miserable?
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:56:46 AM PDT
by
RexBeach
("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
To: BipolarBob
This one made me think.
Yeah, made me think Ive been reading the exact same article for thirty years.
Whitey better get off his ass and do something, but soon.
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:57:08 AM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
One day this is going to bite us.Are you threatening me?
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posted on
05/11/2005 6:58:07 AM PDT
by
skeeter
("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
To: DR GIBBOUS T HILL
Even to white eyes there is a certain gelded quality to a black executive speaking precise white English.
Speak for yourself Dr. Hill!(author) This is absolute BS and precisely part of the problem. These dis-engaged ghetto blacks are ill-served when they are taught that to be educated is to be "white" or to be successful is to abandon their so-called "blackness". They are taught from the day they are born that they can never succeed due to the oppression of the white society. This LIE serves the democratic party well in that it guarantees a near-monolithic voting pattern among blacks, but it damns these ghetto inhabitants to a poverty-stricken hell. Only when poor blacks look upon a successful, articulate-speaking African-American success story as a role model and not an Uncle Tom sell-out (and stop voting exclusively democrat) will things begin to change.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to move to more rural areas where morals are still intact.
To: trisham
"White America doesn't grasp the magnitude of the underclass, its isolation, its hopelessness, its resistance to change. Or its anger."
As I said in an earlier post, I see it every day, and I'm white. For years, it's seemed to me that these people are almost entirely beyond the reach of any conceivable educational reform, any jobs program, any government plan to make them something they aren't. And what they "aren't" is people capable of fitting into this society - or perhaps any society - in a productive manner. At best, they - some of them - could be forced into some kind of low-paying "make work" program, but I'm not sure that would make their anger go away.
To: AaronInCarolina
I think there are two groups of people we're talking about. There's one group that's basically defiant and insolent and self-pitying (the ones you are talking about), and another group - not just black - who really are part of a permanent underclass, who probably don't have what it takes to be self-sufficent or productive members of society.
To: Steve_Seattle
For years, it's seemed to me that these people are almost entirely beyond the reach of any conceivable educational reform, any jobs program, any government plan to make them something they aren't.**************
There may always be an underclass. Not everyone chooses to work, regardless of race. If one regards oneself as a victim, a victim one will be.
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posted on
05/11/2005 7:04:16 AM PDT
by
trisham
("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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