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Breaking: Public urging Gov. Bush to use National Guard to protect Terri Schiavo
The New Tech Diary | 3/18/2005 | 1stFreedom

Posted on 03/18/2005 12:19:15 PM PST by 1stFreedom

March 18, 2005 -- New York, NY

People across the nation are contacting the Governor's office encouraging him to utilize the Florida National Guard.

Under provisions of Florida Statute 250.28, the Governor may utilize the guard in order to execute the laws of the state when the local authorities are not able to.

Orders issued by Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer are in clear violation Article I Section 2 of the Constitution of the State of Florida.

These orders have created confusion as to what course of action is to be taken by local authorities, and has resulted in a resistance to protecting the rights of Terri Schiavo.

Under Florida Statue 250.28, the Governor is given authority to use the National Guard to prevent resistance to the execution of state laws.

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To: pbrown

that is streching it a bit.

In the absence of a health care surrogate document directing someone other than the spouse be the decider of health care decisions, the law automatically places that upon the husband or wife.

This stuff has happened in the past when an accident occurs during a pending divorce.


221 posted on 03/18/2005 5:11:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: 1stFreedom

bttt


222 posted on 03/18/2005 5:11:44 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: johnb838; george wythe

Even though you addressed it to all, you directed it towards my post. Hey! Don't shoot a measly photo messanger, ok? LOL


I was responding to post #17. See the link within #17:

Gritz in Florida

Former Green Beret James "Bo" Gritz - the man who plunged into Laos to find Americans missing in action from the Vietnam War - announced he had arrived in Pinellas County and plans to serve Michael Schiavo and Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer with "citizens arrest warrants."


17 posted on 03/18/2005 2:30:08 PM CST by george wythe

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And then, I found a pic of Former Green Beret James "Bo" Gritz and posted the picture.


223 posted on 03/18/2005 6:09:58 PM PST by JLO (I always TRY to live up to be MN nice)
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To: TNCMAXQ

From the link in post #17:

"Former Green Beret James "Bo" Gritz - the man who plunged into Laos to find Americans missing in action from the Vietnam War - announced he had arrived in Pinellas County and plans to serve Michael Schiavo and Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer with "citizens arrest warrants."

(Picture of him followed.)


224 posted on 03/18/2005 6:18:14 PM PST by JLO (I always TRY to live up to be MN nice)
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To: mlc9852
You are absolutely right. I think that's a good legal argument.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm rooting for Terri big time. However, I do have a problem with so-called conservatives who want to turn a state court issue into a Federal case. The problem here is that the so-called conservatives want the Fed or F'Duh court to overturn the Fla legislature's determination as to the evidence necessary to prove a living will.

225 posted on 03/18/2005 6:22:15 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Destro; AaronInCarolina; l.tecolote; Bogolyubski; frgoff; justche
My position is based on Conservativisim.

No sir, it is not. Your position and your opinion that proceeds from it are clearly uninformed.

As it pertains to the meaning of vegitative state, and all that the term clinically implies, you have demonstrated no amount of personal clinical diagnostic accomplishment on your own part that qualifies you to make the judgment that you have carelessly made in this area. Futhermore, it is not up to any of us to do your research for you.

Do your research, make your case, and stop posting the equivalent of "I'm not a doctor in real life, I just play one on FR" kinda stuff.

226 posted on 03/18/2005 6:45:11 PM PST by Agamemnon
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To: Destro
AaronInCarolina, who supports the same position as you do Bogolyubski said that the Court did hear testimony from both sides plus a neutral court appointed medical team.

Yes, Destro, but you failed to mention that I pointed out that Judge Greer chose to give little credence to the opinions of the 2 doctors that testified on behalf of the Schindlers. He was not particularly open to input. The single doctor that the court appointed (and I pointed out that I don't know just how objective this doctor was) sided with Michael Schiavo's 2 doctors. The fact that a woman's life hangs on the very close count of 3 to 2 is horrific in my opinion. Does it really come down to one doctor that the court appointed?? Bogolyubski was correct in saying the judge refused almost all input from doctors after the original 3 vs 2 doctor contest.
227 posted on 03/18/2005 6:55:37 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: ContraryMary
Self-government and the ability to sustain ourselves, not have government sustain us.

In you world all old would be put to death once they could no longer sustain themselves. Think just a little. There are those who still have some semblance of a heart left who want to sustain her today. Even our founders did not kill those who needed others to suport them.

228 posted on 03/18/2005 7:40:49 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Agamemnon
you have demonstrated no amount of personal clinical diagnostic accomplishment

I don't have to. The court ruled she is in that state - based on expert clinical testimony. Why should your opinion or mine or anyone's outside of the experts in that court room matter?

229 posted on 03/18/2005 8:13:24 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: AaronInCarolina

The is the judge's job, to choose.


230 posted on 03/18/2005 8:14:54 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
I disagree your position is based on Conservatism.

B) Marriage institution. The Husband is joined with the wife - if a court rules this a valid arrangement for this purpose the husband not the parents have the right to decide. We conservatives need to remember what the sacred institution of marriage means in this regard.

Holy CRAP!!! You have got to be kidding with this. The man has bought a house with the malpractice settlement that was supposed to be for lifelong treatment of Terri. On top of that, he's living with another woman, and he's had two children with her. There is no institution of marriage at this point. There are affadavits on file from nurses with him quoted as saying "is the bitch dead yet"?? He has not upheld ANY of his marriage vows to her. At what point is it valid to say, you have a conflict of interest so NO, you don't get to decide any longer. As someone who has made a poor choice in marriage in my life, let me tell you how incredibly grateful I am that he wasn't able to make any life saving decisions on my behalf. And if he had, my parents and my brothers would do exactly what the Schindlers are doing. Further if it was my daughter and I suspected that her husband had hurt her physically and put her in this position, I would do everything possible to not allow him the say. Including some kind of rescue.

You obviously speak in ignorance of someone in a brain injured status.

And finally, re-read what that idiot judge has declared. Not only that the tube is to be pulled, but that no food may be given by her mouth, which has been posted a gazillion times on this site, IF michael had spent money on therapy for his wife, instead of hiring attorney's to kill her, she could very well be able to eat on her own at this point. It was posted earlier that the attorney said she took communion so swallowing is an ability she has.

231 posted on 03/18/2005 8:29:14 PM PST by justche
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To: justche

You are telling me the spouse has no rights over his wife? But the parents? What kind of conservative stance on marriage is that? The next of kin for the wife becomes the husband. Period.


232 posted on 03/18/2005 8:39:28 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: 1stFreedom

Guard or Militia.

That's what Amerikkka has come to.


233 posted on 03/18/2005 8:40:24 PM PST by America1stParty (AmericaFirstAlliance@usa.com)
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To: Destro

The spouse who attempted to kill his wife, and CURRENTLY lives (and has lived with another woman for several years and has other children with the other woman) has or should have his rights forfeited PERIOD!


234 posted on 03/18/2005 8:57:40 PM PST by justche
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To: justche

Go tell that to the court - oh wait they did and the court ruled in his favor - and only the advocates throw out the rumor that he tried to kill her to bolster their defense-providing no evidence.


235 posted on 03/18/2005 9:04:35 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

If you harm your children you lose custody. If I didn't feed my dog, I would be ticketed or arrested....but it's ok for a husband who hasn't honored a single vow to starve a woman. I won't respond to any further comments from you....no man has a complete say so over the life of another.


236 posted on 03/18/2005 9:09:44 PM PST by justche
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To: utcamper
Bunk. All that asshole had to do was hand her over to her parents. Then he's done.

BS FROM A MURDERER

237 posted on 03/18/2005 9:16:20 PM PST by Regulator
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To: justche
At one time in this nation, if an out of control judicial tyrant like Judge Greer tried to allow the minions of a philandering POS like Michael Schiavo to kill his handicapped wife, there would not be enough lawmen in all of Florida to prevent the citizens from protecting her.

Governor Bush has failed. The Florida Legislature has failed. The Right to Life Movement has failed. The Catholic Church has failed. The evangelicals have failed. The Christian Right has failed. The citizens of Florida have failed.

God help Florida and the United States of America! As a nation, for all the pious talk coming from the mouth of the President and our other political leaders, the true God of America is that of the almighty State and the real Gospel is the moral relativism and shifting sands of the black robed tyrants that are our real rulers.

Diogenes vainly searched ancient Greece to find an honest man. We would vainly search modern America to find a politician willing to risk his career to defy this out of control judiciary.

238 posted on 03/18/2005 9:19:40 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: utcamper
For years after this happened to Terri, I tried desperately to find a cure for her.

This statement from the HINO last time around, the whole thing just makes my blood boil! What a monster. There is no cure for Terri but her QUALITY OF LIFE could have been improved tremendously if he cared enough but obviously he doesn't. I wish I could get my hands on that monster.

239 posted on 03/18/2005 9:23:48 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: justche

Florida Law and the court upheld this says that the husband is the next of kin and they ruled thus in this case. The argument that he is not the next of kin failed.


240 posted on 03/18/2005 9:24:26 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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