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Breaking: Public urging Gov. Bush to use National Guard to protect Terri Schiavo
The New Tech Diary | 3/18/2005 | 1stFreedom

Posted on 03/18/2005 12:19:15 PM PST by 1stFreedom

March 18, 2005 -- New York, NY

People across the nation are contacting the Governor's office encouraging him to utilize the Florida National Guard.

Under provisions of Florida Statute 250.28, the Governor may utilize the guard in order to execute the laws of the state when the local authorities are not able to.

Orders issued by Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer are in clear violation Article I Section 2 of the Constitution of the State of Florida.

These orders have created confusion as to what course of action is to be taken by local authorities, and has resulted in a resistance to protecting the rights of Terri Schiavo.

Under Florida Statue 250.28, the Governor is given authority to use the National Guard to prevent resistance to the execution of state laws.

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To: Destro

I completely disagree with you. She smiles, she's kissed her father, she cries, she laughs. Hardly reflexes. We were told that my brother would always be in a vegatative status after a skiing injury. He's very functional now. I can't for one instant imagine fighting a spouse who was living with someone else and spending the money for his care on a new family. If this was anything other than with holding FOOD AND WATER from someone, I don't think the emotions would be so high. But it's a violation of her. It is murder, clear and simple MURDER.

Michael Shiavo is a coward who wasn't even there when the feeding tube was removed.

I'm watching the husband's attorney right now, and just feel physically ill.


101 posted on 03/18/2005 1:20:53 PM PST by justche
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To: All

PLEASE, stop arguing with the death people. It is impossible to get any news out of this thread with all the people opining, same opinions over, and over, and over again. Ignore them and they WILL go away.


102 posted on 03/18/2005 1:21:33 PM PST by johnb838 (Dissolve the goobernment. Need some wood?)
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To: Destro

Look Buckwheat, I didn't tell you to look at any video. I told you she isn't brain dead.

Since you've accused me of something I didn't say, and at the same time brought up your "expertise" in brain death, which you clearly don't have or you would have never suggested she was clinically brain dead, whiz off.


103 posted on 03/18/2005 1:22:52 PM PST by Endeavor (GO ILLINI)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
The DUmmy's kicked me out also. Can you direct me to a forum for realists or non-extremeists?
104 posted on 03/18/2005 1:23:10 PM PST by NY-YANK
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To: ContraryMary
Anarchy is never the solution.

Bet you were NOT in favor of dumping the the overboard, or fighting an "illegal" Revolution, either. We should have just sent another petition to King George III.

105 posted on 03/18/2005 1:23:10 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Destro
The problem to those not familiar with a vegetative state is that they think the person in that state in responding to them because there are facial gestures and eye following movememnt. In reality it is just a reflex action.

Your qualifications to make this statement are what exactly?

106 posted on 03/18/2005 1:25:06 PM PST by Agamemnon
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To: 1stFreedom

I hope Jeb does something fast. Why don't the federal marshals put her in protective custody? She's been subpoenaed to appear before Congress and is in danger!


107 posted on 03/18/2005 1:26:02 PM PST by Buck72
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To: Destro

>But I think she is in a vegetative state per articles I have read.<

Then please read one more account of Terri's behavior. Then, decide if she's in a vegetative state:

From this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365719/posts

PRESS RELEASE:
MARCH 18. 2005
2:00 PM EASTERN TIME


ATTORNEY BARBARA WELLER TOLD TERRI THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REMOVE HER FEEDING TUBE , TERRI BEGAN TO CRY AND TRIED TO SAY "I WANT TO LIVE" ATTORNEY WELLER SAID SHE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME CALMING TERRI DOWN.


WE NEED PEOPLE TO SURROUND HOSPICE IN PROTEST TO JUDGE GREER'S RULING STATING HE WILL OVER RIDE FEDERAL SUBPOENA AND WILL REMOVE TERRI'S FEEDING TUBE IMMEDIATELY.


FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT COME TO FLORIDA...PLEASE CALL YOUR SENATORS. PLEASE DO NOT STOP YOUR CALLS.


ACTION BY THE PEOPLE MUST TAKE PLACE TO SAVE TERRI FROM JUDICIAL HOMICIDE.


JUDGE GREER IS WRONG AND IS NOT LISTENING TO CONGRESS


108 posted on 03/18/2005 1:26:14 PM PST by Darnright (No matter how sick a person is, he is and will always be a man, never becoming a vegetable or animal)
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To: NY-YANK
You know, I wouldn't want to be artificially kept alive in a situation such as this

Put it in writing and have it properly witnessed.

109 posted on 03/18/2005 1:26:31 PM PST by Flyer (* https://dahtcom.nameservices.net *)
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To: AaronInCarolina
Why do you assume medical information was witheld from the court about her condition?

In any case I agree with you that if she is not in a vegetative state just brain damaged she should be kept alive and this is murder.

Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?'

110 posted on 03/18/2005 1:27:00 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why do you assume medical information was witheld from the court about her condition?

In any case I agree with you that if she is not in a vegetative state just brain damaged she should be kept alive and this is murder.

Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?'

111 posted on 03/18/2005 1:27:26 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Anarchy and organized rebellion are not the same.


112 posted on 03/18/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: 1stFreedom
re: How many tanks does the Judge have?)))

LOL...

113 posted on 03/18/2005 1:27:59 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: disgruntledinCa

The definitive symptom of PVS is that a patient does not respond to their surroundings. Terri definitely responds.


114 posted on 03/18/2005 1:28:20 PM PST by tertiary01 (PVS is NOT responding to the surrounding environment. Terri responds!!)
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To: justche
I assume her actual medical information was revealed in court and their was no counter evidence. Sadly, in a vegetative state the facial contortions and eye movements makes one seem to be brain alive but they are automatic refelx actions (talking in general here).

In any case I agree with you that if she is not in a vegetative state just brain damaged she should be kept alive and this is murder.

Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?'

115 posted on 03/18/2005 1:29:29 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Agamemnon
I am not a rocket scientist but I know the principles of gravity and thrust and how they work and why they work.

You disagree with what I defined as a vegetative state? Please correct me with a source. Thank you.

116 posted on 03/18/2005 1:34:25 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Xenalyte

Give 'em Hell Xena!


117 posted on 03/18/2005 1:35:11 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: Darnright

A press release from an interested and involved party is not a legitimate factual source worthy of consideration - sorry. There is no independent verification.


118 posted on 03/18/2005 1:41:13 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: All

I haven't researched this case and am only familiar with it from recent news coverage. What are her parents claim to any decision making on her behalf? Or are they not claiming to have any role in this and they are just trying whatever they can to keep her alive?


119 posted on 03/18/2005 1:42:11 PM PST by utcamper
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To: Destro
Why do you assume medical information was witheld from the court about her condition?

Actually, I don't assume that. In fact, Judge Greer got all of the information. He chose to believe the findings of Michael Schiavos 2 doctors and the 1 court-appointed doctor (randomly chosen?? I don't know). He concluded that the 2 doctors chosen by the Schindlers were just not credible. One of the Schindler doctors he refused to believe because that doctor didn't bring documentation to the court backing up his claims. He didn't offer to let the doctor have more time to produce it, he just concluded that since the doctor didn't bring the substantiating documentation, that we was therefore not a credible witness. Doesn't sound to me like Greer was really interested in hearing both sides.

In any case I agree with you that if she is not in a vegetative state just brain damaged she should be kept alive and this is murder. Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?'

What I believe should happen is the patient (whoever it may be) should have his/her fate put in the hands of someone/some_people who truly love the patient. Then we rely on those people to make the right decision for the patient. In this case, I am not in the slightest bit ambiguous about which party cares the most for Terri. Her parents. If she truly is unaware, there is no indignity for Terri, and she is not suffering. Her greatest human value in that case is the joy that she brings to those who love her most. If, however, she is as the Schindlers say, starving her to death would be a horrific travesty, and would usher in a new age of a culture of death in this country.
120 posted on 03/18/2005 1:43:24 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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