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To: justche
I assume her actual medical information was revealed in court and their was no counter evidence. Sadly, in a vegetative state the facial contortions and eye movements makes one seem to be brain alive but they are automatic refelx actions (talking in general here).

In any case I agree with you that if she is not in a vegetative state just brain damaged she should be kept alive and this is murder.

Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?'

115 posted on 03/18/2005 1:29:29 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
'pulling the plug?'

You do understand that the phrase "pulling the plug" does not apply at all in this case, don't you? That phrase suggests that, were it not for modern medical machinery, the patient would die forthright. In this case, the patient is quite healthy, physically. Mind-wise... that is the big question. She has to be forcibly starved to death to accomplish what too many people are calling "letting nature take its course".
122 posted on 03/18/2005 1:47:08 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: Destro
I assume her actual medical information was revealed in court and their was no counter evidence.

I've always agreed with you about Clinton's criminal war against Serbia, but you are misinformed here.

There is tons of counter evidence. The parents' attorney has presented 33 affidavits from neurologists, speech pathologists and other experts that Terri is indeed sentient, and could very likely benefit greatly from rehabilitative therapy. The judge has consistently chosen arbitrarily to to ignore evidence presented by anyone on Terri's parents' side.

Michael Schiavo has refused to allow Terri any therapy -- even though he won millions in a jury verdict to provide for that very therapy.

There have been two recent articles in the New York Times, stating that there's strong evidence, from MRIs and PET scans, that patients in a "vegetative state" have very vigorous brain activity, particularly in the areas of their brains that have to do with memory and verbal thinking.

The problem is, without therapy, these patients can't express what's going on in their minds:

See: New York Times: What if there is something going on in there?

See also Sarah Scantlin, pictured left, who just "woke up" this year after 20 years in a "vegetative state," and who now speaks as intelligently as you or I. Even less communicative than Terri, Sarah could only blink her eyes until a couple of months ago; no one knew whether her eye blinking meant she was trying to communicate or not. Doctors told her parents Sarah would "never" recover.

I have plenty more where that came from, but not enough time to post now.

147 posted on 03/18/2005 1:57:40 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Destro
Do you agree with me that if someone is in an actual vegetative state as diagnosed by doctors that you would be in favor of 'pulling the plug?' But that's not the issue here. There is no written directive, AND there is no pulling of a plug. They are with holding FOOD AND WATER. She is being SENTENCED to death, committing no crime, and having no fair trial. If this was about the right to choose which medical extremes to stay alive I wouldn't be involved, I would say it was a family matter. This is murder.
187 posted on 03/18/2005 2:23:34 PM PST by justche
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