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Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate
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Posted on 10/03/2004 10:31:18 AM PDT by conservativepoet

Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asseenindrudge; bush; cheater; debates; kerry; kerrylies; kerryliesandcheats; thankyoujim; welovefrandthisiswhy
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To: matymac

Sure, WE all know that, but a lot of people don't. There are still a lot of people that have little idea of what the Swift Boat Vets are all about and those issues clearly illustrate Kerry's character, so every chink we can add in the armor of his character the better off we are going to be. Bottom line, it goes to character...we are slowly painting a picture of him that he does not want the world to see.


421 posted on 10/03/2004 3:24:11 PM PDT by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: God'sgrrl

I did the same thing and that was no pen. You must need glasses.


422 posted on 10/03/2004 3:25:31 PM PDT by ruthles
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To: LibertarianInExile

You really do not know what your talking about concerning JAMES BAKER.


423 posted on 10/03/2004 3:28:00 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Finny
"but it stands to reason that if you need to wear reading glasses to read your own notes, wouldn't you need to wear them to write those notes?"

Well I it does stand to reason that you would need them to write your own notes. It depends on how poor your vision is and upon how well you manage glasses. I am horrible at glasses management. I sometimes have them right at hand and still don't use them to read or write even when I can barely read what's in front of me. But yours is a very, very good point. So much so that I think we can just about rule out that he pulled out reading glasses.

So it seems we have something here. Now it's another thing entirely to expect the media to delve into this given that they have already had their say and may not want to step into the same stream twice. And given that they are jerks 90% of the time.

424 posted on 10/03/2004 3:31:11 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: Peach

I completely disagree with you.

First, President Bush did better than you portray. I'm sure you're sincerely disappointed he did not say things in the way or manner you would like, but it is incorrect to say he left certain things unchallenged. I don't have time to go through the list, but right off the bat I can cite that during the debate he forcefully noted that under his administration there will be an all volunteer armed services.


425 posted on 10/03/2004 3:32:47 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Peach
Or that there are no Iraq/AQ connections? Or that we diverted troops from Afghanistan to Iraq?

He's personally refuted that, too.

426 posted on 10/03/2004 3:33:45 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: RandallFlagg

Something else to consider that just dawned on me. DUH..Thursday night, as the debate was going on, the dust up in Samarra was just beginning and I am sure that was on his mind and he was impatient with having to be where he was, out of touch.


427 posted on 10/03/2004 3:34:25 PM PDT by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: cyncooper

How many lies did we count that Kerry told? 17?


428 posted on 10/03/2004 3:34:40 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: samantha
That is past tense,you sound viscerally angry, aloof,and hard hearted.

I am angry. I wanted Bush to knock Kerry out Thursday. Instead, he let him back in the game.

He was out in this terrible heat and carnage in Florida,and in hindsight he probably should have postponed his sympathy trips because he seemed like he was very dehydrated and very tired. Good reason to beat him up on all the threads because he thought he could do it all and did not accomplish this.

Probably postponed his trips? Obviously he should have postponed his trips. Had he gone on Friday, 24 hours later, nobody he visited would have minded.

Listen, lady. I've supported Bush much longer than you have, as he was my governor for six years. I love the man. I want him to be re-elected in the worst way.

But, the truth is the truth. I don't think he or his team took this debate very seriously, which is why he was out traipsing around instead of preparing. That was a colossal mistake.

Let's hope he does better on Friday.

429 posted on 10/03/2004 3:34:43 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: ruthles

Okay was the square thing his shirt cuff? Cause I can't really make out what you all are seeing. (I am NOT trying to defend Kerry, believe me.) It's just that if the few likely things it could be are ruled out then we have reason to hope people that have the power to nail the guy, like Rush or FOX will be more likely to give it some thought.


430 posted on 10/03/2004 3:35:33 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: conservativepoet

Look folks, Bush didn't lose because Kerry had a small pile of notes. He lost because he didn't make the better presentation.

This is misdirection - what do you get when you 'prove' Kerry had notes? Nothing - you look bad, and let Kerry get ahead.

Don't fall for this.


431 posted on 10/03/2004 3:35:38 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I pray you are right!

mc


432 posted on 10/03/2004 3:36:24 PM PDT by mcshot (suspect I've been neuralized......can't remember sh!t!)
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To: HannaUSA

Yes. I'm guessing that during a time of war and natural disasters, President Bush's mind wasn't only on the debate.

This is yet ANOTHER reason why I think it was all a plan to nuke Kerry at a later date, rather than on the first debate.

I mean, do you remember the first Bush/Gore debate? I don't, and I watched it with all the anticipation that I did last week's.


433 posted on 10/03/2004 3:37:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: stockpirate
Lets all ping Drudge...at



Why not Jim Lehrer? His e-mail address???
434 posted on 10/03/2004 3:37:42 PM PDT by danamco
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To: RandallFlagg
You might be asking yourself why I place so much faith in him. One major thing is the fact that almost every FReeper was able to counter Kerry, while Bush stayed silent. I watched this and said to myself, "That man's got a plan. He's coming off dim to everyone, but there's a plan in the works."
Watch the tape again. Bush is biting his lip; almost as if he could hear tens of thousands of FReepers screaming at their televisions.

With all due respect, that's the dumbest thing I've read on this forum in a very long time.

435 posted on 10/03/2004 3:38:15 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: tkathy
He rattled out complicated answers to complicated questions without pausing to think. Mighty suspicious to me.

I recall that Kerry gave very polished, noncommital answers to almost every question. The sum of nearly every answer he gave was: "As your President, I will spend more money on more things and do a better job spending it than the man currently in office. And as a matter of fact, I was in Vietnam, too."

So far, I haven't seen pics of the incriminating sheet, but FReepers are on record that night as saying he referred to something on his podium. Kerry comes across to me as the type who would cheat if he thought he could get away with it.

436 posted on 10/03/2004 3:40:03 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: HannaUSA
Thursday night, as the debate was going on, the dust up in Samarra was just beginning and I am sure that was on his mind and he was impatient with having to be where he was, out of touch.

Let's hope Bush is not directing the actions on the battlefield (he's not). The last president to do that was LBJ in Vietnam, with disastrous consequences.

437 posted on 10/03/2004 3:40:24 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

How so? How is it dumb to allow an opponent to assume a stance of victory due to false speculations of one's intelligence?

Bush has done this before, as did Reagan. It's commonly called a, "Rope-a-dope."


438 posted on 10/03/2004 3:40:50 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: cyncooper
"First, President Bush did better than you portray."

Anyone who follows politics knows that Bush has to do well enough that the day after the debate we don't have to put up with the expected media crap about how "the race is tightening." We already knew they were dying for Kerry to do better so that they could report that. If we know it, the Bush camp knows it and Bush knows it.

He could have and should have done better. There are no excuses. I love him, but on this he messed up.

439 posted on 10/03/2004 3:41:11 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: danamco

We got Drudge to post and now it is being aired on Fox News.


440 posted on 10/03/2004 3:41:23 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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