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Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate
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Posted on 10/03/2004 10:31:18 AM PDT by conservativepoet

Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asseenindrudge; bush; cheater; debates; kerry; kerrylies; kerryliesandcheats; thankyoujim; welovefrandthisiswhy
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To: Soul Seeker
Kerry has just been shown to have cheated.

I'll believe that when Ed Gillespie makes the accusation. That means he will have verified the video with outside experts.

Until that happens, all this does is help Drudge get listeners to his show.

Perceptions are important. While this one may not hurt much, another subpar performance by Bush, and the snowball rolls further down the hill.

381 posted on 10/03/2004 2:31:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: queenkathy
...umm. new here. how do you "ping"...

First you get a ballpeen hammer....

382 posted on 10/03/2004 2:31:08 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: sinkspur
If I can come up with retorts to every single outrageous statement Kerry made, and throw in his uneventful 20 year Senate career to boot, then a man who knows ten times as much about foreign policy ought to be able to.
He did poorly.

I agree 100%.
Kerry bashed Bush on Kyoto.
Bush neglected to point out that Kerry voted AGAINST Kyoto in the Senate.

Kerry implied that Reagan would be one of his examples in foreign policy.
Bush neglected to point out that Kerry opposed everything Reagan did that brought the USSR down.

Kerry claimed Bush took troops from Afghanistan for the war in Iraq.
Bush neglected to point out that this was completely false.

The list goes on and on.

IMHO Kerry was a sitting duck and Bush could have easily taken him out in this debate.
It seems to me that Bush was really poorly prepared.

Yikes, Chris Wallace just showed the cuts from the debate again, where Bush is stuttering, getting lost in mid-sentence, blankly staring into space, grimacing, nervously fidgeting etc.
It's painful to watch.

383 posted on 10/03/2004 2:31:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: cyncooper

I play a lot of chess. I'm convinced that President Bush's actions, reactions, and lack of the words we all wished he'd have said, is a strategy that will secure another four years.


384 posted on 10/03/2004 2:33:03 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Motherbear
Most people in the world can't think on their feetin front of an audience of millions. In fact, most folks get stage fright in front of an audience of hundreds...

It is the job of the president to be able to think on his feet before millions of people. Reagan did it well, so did Clinton. So does Rudy Guiliani, and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Bush has done much better than this in the past, himself. He has no business making campaign stops on the day of the debate.

385 posted on 10/03/2004 2:33:21 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Soul Seeker

I have noticed your posts pretty much reflect my take on the debate. I think Bush did well based on the substance, and did not have the style that we in this house readily granted Kerry.

The extremes of one side or the other saying Bush gave a disastrous performance or saying Kerry outright won when that is impossible if one factors in what was said, just cannot hold up under scrutiny. And polls reflect yours and my sensible take on it.


386 posted on 10/03/2004 2:33:30 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks for the link!


387 posted on 10/03/2004 2:33:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: spacejunkie
He broke the rules...big surprise. Do you actually think this thing will get any attention? We already know about voter fraud and how that is covered...Its a waste of time to b*tch and moan about this. We should be more focused on round two and stop worrying about this. Kerry cheated and who besides us will care? Makes us look petty and hopeless. Bush will wipe the floor with Kerry in round 2...you know John F-ing Kerry can't talk to an audience without sounding like an elitist pos...IMHO
388 posted on 10/03/2004 2:33:58 PM PDT by matymac (The NEA = Neo Elitist A*sholes)
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To: conservativepoet

Are you sure it was not a pen?


389 posted on 10/03/2004 2:35:32 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: sinkspur

I asked you why you only care to discuss Bush's performance. You have yet to answer the question.

You can attempt to ignore the discovered cheat if you like, but why no focus on Kerry's words? Why is your concentration only on the negatives for Bush and not the negatives for kerry?


390 posted on 10/03/2004 2:35:39 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: RandallFlagg
I'm convinced that President Bush's actions, reactions, and lack of the words we all wished he'd have said, is a strategy that will secure another four years.

He forced himself to bumble and stumble and look unprepared?

He may win another four years, and I hope he does, but allowing your opponent back in a race that you were on your way to winning is not a good strategy.

391 posted on 10/03/2004 2:37:03 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: conservativepoet

Certainly not a pen. Noticed that he uses
both hands to place the item on the podium.
One would not do that with a kleenex, package
of kleenex, pen, or even glasses. Typically
this would be done only if one intended to
view it later. Care was taken to place it in his
field of view.


392 posted on 10/03/2004 2:37:03 PM PDT by topfile
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To: sinkspur

Evidently, you never saw the first Reagan/Mondale debate. Reagan wasn't so "light on his feet" in that debate.

And, again, you are concentrated on Bush. When are you going to give some attention to Kerry?


393 posted on 10/03/2004 2:37:40 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Just mythoughts

That's a no. But the camera was not on Kerry durring the Presidents closing remarks. That would have provided a distraction.


394 posted on 10/03/2004 2:38:56 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Soul Seeker
I asked you why you only care to discuss Bush's performance.

Because it was just about as dreadful as it could possibly be.

Kerry's gaffe over "Global Test" and some others should be hammered on, for sure, but a golden opportunity to reinforce Kerry's incompetence and inconsistency was missed. And that's a real shame.

395 posted on 10/03/2004 2:39:38 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: BigCinBigD

Thank you so much for checking...


396 posted on 10/03/2004 2:40:02 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: conservativepoet
I really don't care that he cheated. The media will give him a pass and we will only look like whiners pointing it out. Bush was unprepared and tired. He has to do better.

On the other hand, it is interesting to see that Kerry is consistent. He is a lying, pompous, dirty cheat, just as was 35 years ago.

"These are not my 3" x 5" cards, they belong to the family."

397 posted on 10/03/2004 2:40:12 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: cyncooper

Yes, initial polls would indicate the American people sized up the debate in the same manner. I'm personally interested at the moment why a few seem so interested to make more of Bush's performance than they have of Kerry's, when their stated concerns would appear to have been partially relieved. If it were me, I'd be breathing a sigh of relief it doesn't seem to have had the intense backlash predicted against Bush.


398 posted on 10/03/2004 2:41:03 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker
Evidently, you never saw the first Reagan/Mondale debate. Reagan wasn't so "light on his feet" in that debate.

Granted. Let's hope Friday equals Reagan's performance against Mondale in the second debate.

399 posted on 10/03/2004 2:41:26 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

That is a weak argument. Kerry's own words reflect his inconsistency and incompetence.

I find it concerning you are so caught up in performance that you are incapable of understanding the seriousness of what Kerry proposed and how that is the real story here.


400 posted on 10/03/2004 2:44:18 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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