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Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate
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Posted on 10/03/2004 10:31:18 AM PDT by conservativepoet

Caught on Video: Kerry Cheated by Using Notes Cards in Debate


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asseenindrudge; bush; cheater; debates; kerry; kerrylies; kerryliesandcheats; thankyoujim; welovefrandthisiswhy
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To: kristinn

Ehh, we still love ya!


121 posted on 10/03/2004 11:19:18 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: sinkspur

Dear sinkspur,

Nah, if he had notes, he loses any positive impact the debates had for him, and some more besides.

Americans don't like cheaters. We'll overlook an incidental thing, like whether he should have brought his own pen, or used what was provided to him. But if he had notes, well folks will understand that's like bragging about the "A" you got on the test, when you brought the answers in with you when you took it.

I watched some of the debate. What I saw was that Mr. Bush's message just doesn't need half of 90 minutes to be put across. President Bush's message needs about a minute or two to explain. All else is dross. He just ran out of bs. Filling his half of 90 minutes with bs and hot air was no problem for Monsieur Kerry, and if he had notes, we can understand it all the better.

Thinking on your feet doesn't mean the ability to blather.


sitetest


122 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:22 AM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: RandallFlagg

It DOES make a difference if he brought in notes. Of course, Bush was still very bad and nothing changes that but the world will know that Kerry cheated and that is much worse.


123 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:24 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: cubreporter
It looks like a folded piece of paper, they were both allowed paper to right on BUT I guarantee paper and pen was on the podiums before they got there. Kerry had a cheat sheet. Thats why he kept acting like he was taking notes, he was really reading.
124 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:33 AM PDT by mammer
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To: kristinn
I have to disagree with you.

It looks like he grabs a pen (with his right hand) off of the podium, takes the cap off, sticks it on the other end of the pen (right hand moves across his body and removes with left hand), and starts to write on the paper.

Kerry pulls note cards out of his pockets and then looks down at them, then sets them on the podium.

125 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:44 AM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: rolling_stone
"He must have had advice from Sandy Burglar..."

In this case a "reverse" Sandy Burglar motion

Someone post a pic of J F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry attempting to retrieve throw? a football from behind his butt.

Gives an idea of the "Kerry Kontortions"

126 posted on 10/03/2004 11:25:27 AM PDT by spokeshave (<img src="http://photopile.com/photos/dead/auctions/146584.jpg">)
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To: Soul Seeker
To make the leap that a "win" on the debate means Kerry picked up votes, well, you can make that argument if you like but I've seen no evidence of it yet. And if he didn't win any votes, that makes a stylistic victory meaningless.

Before last Thursday, Bush was rollin'. He had no vulnerabilities. None.

With his stumbling performance, he made Kerry look more presidential in comparison, something Kerry was simply not able to attain by himself in three months of serious campaigning.

None of us are going to change our votes over any of these debates. But Bush has now opened the door for those who are wavering or undecided. He must be better prepared on Friday, and go on the offensive. Answering Kerry all night made Kerry look like he was in control of the debate.

Perception is important. It may not be determinative by itself, but to say it doesn't matter how Bush looked is to ignore reality.

127 posted on 10/03/2004 11:25:50 AM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: tirednvirginia; sitetest
It DOES make a difference if he brought in notes.

Oh, I agree completely. The problem is getting someone in the librat media to ASK Kerry about this.

Of course, Bush was still very bad and nothing changes that but the world will know that Kerry cheated and that is much worse.

sitetest said it better than I could on his post #122.
128 posted on 10/03/2004 11:27:38 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: mattdono

I ought to ask the mods to pull my erroneous observation to save any further confusion.


129 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:39 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: landerwy
Peice of paper out of his pocket eh....?

I guess J F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry had a signed 180 ready and was going to come clean on his Vietnam lies on national TV....../sarcasm

130 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (<img src="http://photopile.com/photos/dead/auctions/146584.jpg">)
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To: RandallFlagg

Well...Drudge has it now- go look on www.drudgereport.com


131 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:47 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: shield
I wish James Baker would move to NOT ALLOW anymore debates.

Agreed. Bush is ahead. The beauty contests debates are risky for Bush.
So what if Kerry can appear presidential (to few undecided idiots, anyway) for 90 minutes? Let the President stand on his record. Debates are not his strong point. What matters is that he man is a leader.
132 posted on 10/03/2004 11:30:11 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: sitetest
Thinking on your feet doesn't mean the ability to blather.

Thinking on your feet DOES mean answering your opponent. He missed a great chance when Kerry started talking about 9/11. Bush should have gotten in his face: "Senator, you don't need to tell me about 9/11. I was there on 9/11. I responded to 9/11." Instead, Bush never mentioned 9/11, one of the major remembrances of the entire country.

Also, why didn't he come back to Kerry's suggestion of giving nuclear fuel to Iran with "Senator, Clinton gave nuclear fuel to North Korea. Look where they are. You want to make the same mistake with Iran?"

Bush speaks in simple declarative sentences, and could have nailed Kerry to the wall several times.

133 posted on 10/03/2004 11:31:54 AM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: conservativepoet

IT’S THE MISSING RECORDS FREOM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES


134 posted on 10/03/2004 11:33:21 AM PDT by Zeteo
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To: blogblogginaway; shezza

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/politics/093004-15v.ram

If you forward down to about 1:23:13 you'll see that he fold up a piece of paper that looks like it has been folded and wadded up several times.


135 posted on 10/03/2004 11:34:50 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV (God Bless GWBush)
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To: tkathy
He rattled out complicated answers to complicated questions without pausing to think. Mighty suspicious to me.

Kerry might have used note cards and if so he should be called on it -

But you have got to be kidding me. Lerher did not ask one difficult question in the whole debate. To either candidate. If GW or Kerry did not expect the questions they got....then neither are that bright!! -

Having a grasp of the issues is not that hard. Both men should have this. I am certain GW does, he just performed bad on Thursday. Not in what he said, but in allowing Kerry to not have to answer for his awful 20 year record in the Senate on National Security issues.

That is why GW lost Thursday. Kerry did not have to defend his record.

136 posted on 10/03/2004 11:34:55 AM PDT by Khaosai
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To: conservativepoet

I despise Kerry. Looking at him makes my skin crawl. But since he's such a sweaty pig, maybe he was pulling out a hankie in case he needed to mop his wrinkly brow.


137 posted on 10/03/2004 11:35:04 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: conservativepoet

pinging me


138 posted on 10/03/2004 11:35:34 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Vote Catholic Not Kerry)
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To: PureSolace

"...but it's also possible it's a pen that he used to write with..."

ALL illegal...you can easily hide notes inside a pen as well. They weren't allowed to bring anything with them. Anything they wanted at the podium (ie pen/pencil, paper) they had to turn over to the commission and the commission would then approve/deny. If approved, THEY placed it on the podium.

This guy is going down.


139 posted on 10/03/2004 11:36:13 AM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: Registered

One of Registered's classics.
140 posted on 10/03/2004 11:37:28 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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