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FORGING GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS IN TEXAS IS A FELONY
http://mostlydeadarmadillos.blogspot.com/ ^ | Wednesday September 22, 2004 | Stephen Johnson

Posted on 09/23/2004 6:34:50 AM PDT by CHAROM

Forging government documents is a Third Degree Felony. It looks as if Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott wants to make a case, he has the goods to do it.


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To: DJ Frisat
Laws are for little people and Republicans

You're exactly right. It's maddening, and disheartening.

21 posted on 09/23/2004 7:10:24 AM PDT by Theo
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To: CHAROM

Whom do you charge with the forgery?


22 posted on 09/23/2004 7:11:23 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Redbob

The Texas Attorney General website:

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/agency/contacts.shtml

Write Gregg Abbot and email here!!!:

greg.abbott@oag.state.tx.us


23 posted on 09/23/2004 7:35:11 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: airborne; spacejunkie2001
We have established that the documents can easily be produced in about an hour by just about anyone, and were a very amateur forgery.

We know that the documents used army terminology, and the Burkett was in the army (guard, if I remember correctly).

Why would you give immunity to the person who is, by far, the most likely source of the forgery?
24 posted on 09/23/2004 7:58:45 AM PDT by self_evident
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To: self_evident
"Why would you give immunity to the person who is, by far, the most likely source of the forgery?

I'm not convinced yet that Burkett is the forger. However, if he is, he might be offered a reduced sentence in exchange for testimony regarding the collusion and coverup by and between CBS and the DNC.

I am just suggesting scenarios. We still don't know even half of the facts, IMHO.

25 posted on 09/23/2004 8:15:53 AM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: Redbob
It'd be tough to cnvince most judges or juries that what was supposed to be one individual's "memos to file" were government documents.

I was thinking about that issue last night while watching Joe Scarborough, but memos written by a person in their official capacity dealing with work-related issues, are still official government documents. If the forgeries had been real documents (i.e. written by Col. Killian, in his capacity as CO of the ANG unit, regarding a pilot under his commad, and maintained in a personal file in his office), then they would be considered official documents. I know the Dems will try to spin it so the public thinks the felony statute doesn't apply, but it does.

26 posted on 09/23/2004 8:28:46 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: ez2muz; CHAROM; MoralSense

Please see Replies 11 and 26. CYA memos written by an official, in their official capacity, regarding official business, are officially official documents. ;>) Plus, it doesn't even matter, because the forgeries were produced with the intent to alter the public's perception of President Bush during an election season, so its still forgery, dissemination of forged documents via television or radio (which is a federal felony), and there are most likely federal election laws that have been violated. If the Texas and federal government officials have the will, there are criminal cases to be made of this.


27 posted on 09/23/2004 8:35:42 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: lyingisbetter
Is passing a counterfeit bill that you did not create illegal, if you knew it was counterfeit and you tried to pass it anyway?

Looks like it. The language about fraudulent intent would seem to cover that.

28 posted on 09/23/2004 8:37:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: CHAROM

Why the attorney general?

Wouldn't this come under the purview of Ronnie Earle Travis County DA?


29 posted on 09/23/2004 8:41:39 AM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: Redbob
Redbob said: It'd be tough to cnvince most judges or juries that what was supposed to be one individual's "memos to file" were government documents.

I thought that one of the documents was a copy of a written order from Killian to Bush regarding a flight physical. The Demonrats tried to claim that Bush should be court-martialed for disobeying that order. Sounds pretty official to me.

30 posted on 09/23/2004 10:21:09 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: HenryLeeII
Thanks.

Did you follow the link quoted on post#12?

The second paragraph of that article quotes the statute.

31 posted on 09/23/2004 10:38:25 AM PDT by ez2muz
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To: ez2muz

Actually I didn't read it but I've been meaning to, so thanks for reminding me.


32 posted on 09/23/2004 1:17:18 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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33 posted on 09/23/2004 1:19:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Redbob
"It'd be tough to cnvince most judges or juries that what was supposed to be one individual's "memos to file" were government documents. "

Perhaps not that tough. It dealt with personnel officially under his command, concerned the official duties of a member under his command, was intended to appear typed on an official government typewrite and was signed in his official capacity of "Lt Col" as that individuals Commander.

Just my opinion, but that (while there may be many additional reasons) would seem make a strong case that it is a government document forgery.

34 posted on 09/23/2004 4:25:06 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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Sec. 32.21. FORGERY. (a) For purposes of this section:
~ ~ (1) "Forge" means:

[For talking purposes, let's stipulate these are forgeries of government documents]

~ (b) A person commits an offense if he forges a writing with intent to defraud or harm another.

[Here is where it gets rough, IMO. Check definitions of "defraud" and "harm." The legal definitions, in order to criminalize the conduct, are different from ordinary everyday meaning. For example, my "buddy" has a girlfriend, and I decide to try to turn her off to him. To that end, I forge a government record that shows he had a dishonorable discharge. I forge a government document. I show it to the girl. I defraud her, in a way, but not in a way, I don't think, that triggers this statute.]

[Your mileage may vary.]

35 posted on 09/23/2004 4:49:59 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CHAROM

just called my local CBS affiliate

Newsroom, this is XXXXXX,

>Hi, I was calling out to find out if it is true that you were dropping CBS as a nightly newsfeed?

Uh, well, I haven't heard any stories to that effect, and I haven't seen any emails on that.

>Probably not, then?

Well, I have not heard of anything like that.

>OK, my second question is, 'if not, WHY not?'

I really can't comment on that.

>Ok, I understand. Will you please note my call and the content of it?

Yes, I will.

>Thank you, I admire your local station, and think you deserve better national representation than what you have.

Thank you for your call sir.

>Good evening

Good bye.


36 posted on 09/23/2004 4:58:18 PM PDT by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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