Posted on 09/19/2004 7:57:12 AM PDT by chasio649
Don't get me wrong. I live in the south, and I love the south. I spend my Saturday afternoons watching the Georgia Bulldogs and other southern college football teams; I enjoy true quality peaches and real grapes known as scuppernongs; I eat my fatback and grits; and the people are very nice. I simply disagree with them about politics and religion. The political beliefs of white southerners drag this country down.
It has always been this way throughout American history starting with the issue of slavery. Most northern states gave up slavery as early as 1800, but for economic reasons, southerners refused to give up on the heinous institution. Everyone knows slavery was an economic advantage for a few wealthy landowners. They used their political clout to completely control and influence society. Having slaves was a detriment to the poorer whites as well, because they could not compete with free labor. Yet, rich whites owned the newspapers. The editorial pages were filled with pictures of what would happen if slaves were freed. (Black men would go with white woman. OOOOH! How abhorrent.)
We all know what happened. The bloodiest war in American history broke out. And it was not even because the north was going to force the south to give up slavery. It was because the country elected a president--who for the first time--was going to morally condemn slavery. This was a slap in the face to the south. The south defended the institution of slavery, and the southern Baptist religion was even founded on this moral defense. There is no argument today. At least not a reasonable one. The south was wrong. And the south was wrong during the Civil Rights battle one hundred years later.
The south is still wrong. If it wasn't for white southerners, George W. Bush would have no chance of getting elected. He can rely on the south to vote for him in a block. What's wrong with Bush?
Then there is the war on terror which has been one colossal blunder after another. Let's make this clear. Mr. Bush was not the victim of bad intelligence. He deliberately mistated the intelligence that he did have--an impeachable offense. Starting a war of aggression for phony reasons is a crime against humanity.
It is evident that we have a redneck gangster as president. Unfortunately, white southerners by and large support him even though his policies such as his tax cuts for the rich hurt working class southern whites. Their blind loyalty brings this country down.
About the author Mark Gelbart: I've written a novel entitled Talk Radio. I'm still looking for a publisher.
Email: agelbart@aol.com
We put up with a lott of crap from Yankees 'come down to gloat' at the battlefields.
One day, after listening patiently to about 5 minutes of diatribe (things were slow) from the driver of a car with New Jersey plates, I asked the fellow if he would like any gas?
When he replied, "Fill 'er up!", I said "No. You can go 30 miles the way you are headed, or back twenty, they have gas there. I'm not selling you a damned drop!"
I then informed him that if he didn't move his piece of junk and stop blocking my pumps I'd call the County Sherrif and have him arrested for trespassing.
It felt good to send one smarta$$ off with his tail between his legs.
I thought my boss might be mad at me but he got a real kick out of it when I told him.
That is tooooo funny ;)
Come on down, anytime, and we'll show you some Southern hospitality.
to: Mark Gelbart
re: your interesting take on the value and values of white southerners
>a-hem<
SHOVE IT TILL YOU CAN TASTE IT.
Hey don't forget Ol' Jimma
The most openly racist white people I have ever met live in and around New York City and Boston. Of course, this doesn't stop certain members of my family from talking about those "backward rednecks" down South even though they go out of their way to send their kids to all white schools and would call the cops if they saw a black man walking in their neighbohood. GGRRRRRR!!!
Keep looking, son.
What's right with John Kerry?
Here's one Southerner who's got an answer for that . .
Sweet Home Alabama
Written by Ed King - Ronnie Van Zant - Gary Rossington
Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the Southland
I miss Alabamy once again
And I think its a sin, yes
Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
In Birmingham they love the governor
Now we all did what we could do
Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Here I come Alabama
Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how about you?
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Sweet home Alabama
Oh sweet home baby
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet Home Alabama
Lordy
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Yea, yea Montgomery's got the answer
Thanks, I almost got arrested in Huntsville last winter. I did a perfectly customary Massachusetts style rolling stop at the airport, got jumped all over by a pair of Huntsville constabulary, apologized profusely, the more I tried to agree with them, the madder they got. I gotta remember were I am. The barbecue (and schnitzel - this was Huntsville) was outstanding and 'cept for that one misunderstanding with the local smokies the people were definitely hospitable.
Well, Southerners do generally make really bad presidents. Dubya may be the first one since Andrew Jackson that doesn't fall into the complete disaster category. (Bush I really is a Yankee)
Conservatism isn't just relegate to white people in the South.
Though that seems to be what you are getting at. What you are really attempting to say is that Conservatism is what is dragging this country down.
Quick Question: except for the notable exception of John F. Kennedy, where did the last few Democratic Presidents come from?
Answer:
LBJ: Texas
Clinton: Arkansas
Carter: Georgia
At least we conservatives here don't couch our words in race-baiting language like you do. We simply say the upper-northeastern blue-blood elitist liberalism is bad for the country.
We don't go on to point out that most upper-north east liberal blue blood happen to be white.
manofaiki
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Monday, June 23, 2003
Dear Editor:
I live in Augusta, Ga., and the Augusta Chronicle recently ran one of your editorials entitled "Tax Cuts Warranted." In your editorial, you claimed that under Reagan, tax cuts boosted tax revenues. This is completely false. Here are the statistics from the U.S. Office of Management and Budget's annual historical tables (1987):
Year Tax Collections in Constant (adjusted for inflation) 1987 dollars
1981 $766.6 billion
1982 $738.2 billion Reagan's tax cuts go in effect here.
1983 $684.3 billion Revenue from corporate income tax fell so drastically that Reagan agreed to a corporate
tax hike here. Remember his "revenue enhancement" as a euphemism for a tax increase?
1984 $730.4 billion
1985 $776.1 billion
It took five years for the tax collections to equal what they were before Reagan cut taxes, and this is when the tax revenue base is naturally increasing with the increase in the GDP which occurs every year, unless there is a recession. Economists are in near unanimous agreement that supply-side theory has been proven false. In fact, there is not a single supply-side wing in any college economics department in the United States.
It's a crank theory, popular with politicians who think they can promise us the moon and the stars.
Mark Gelbart"
Mr. Gelbart:
I see you only posted the years 1981 - 1985.
Gee, I'm just curious. Since you bothered to look this up, I'm wondering......what was the Collected Tax Reveune like for the LAST 3 YEARS Reagan was in office? You know, like Reagan was President from 1980 to 1988?
Where are the figures for 1986, 1987 and 1988?
Perhaps you'd like to post it?
Or should I?
manofaiki
The National Center for Policy Analysis, Office of Management and Budget reported tax revenues rising (in constant 1992 dollars) from $418.7 billion in 1980, to $436.8 billion in 1986, to $504.1 billion in 1990.
See BS got caught forging documents this time, but the left has been doing it for decades at least.
Need figures showing that the J curve is a fiction? No problem, just make them up.
Cracked me up.
what tripe. election year always bring out the trolls.
An article about this article being posted on FR.
Hey thanks.....glad we got under his skin :)
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