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The Design Inference Game
03/03/03 | Moi

Posted on 03/03/2003 8:27:25 AM PST by general_re

I thought a new thread was a good idea, and here seems to be a good place to put it, so as not to clutter up "News". The only topic available was "heated discussion", though. ;)

If any clarification about the pictures is needed, just say so, and I will try to at least highlight the part that I am interested in for you. Remember that I'm interested in the objects or structures or artifacts being represented, so don't be thrown off if the illustrations seem abstract.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: crevolist; dembski; designinference; evolution; intelligentdesign
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To: Alamo-Girl
I haven't noticed very many models of emotion or animal behavior, except in film making and video games.

And, at the end of the day, if we succeed in creating AI, we will have shown that intelligence can be created by intelligent beings.
281 posted on 03/10/2003 10:08:22 AM PST by Rachumlakenschlaff (in pursuit of honest inquiry)
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To: general_re
Fire away, general!

It's ok to hit me with another pic. Really. I can use the valuable, thought-provoking exercise with my FRiends.

Cordially,

282 posted on 03/10/2003 10:11:26 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Rachumlakenschlaff
Great catch! Thanks for your post!
283 posted on 03/10/2003 10:13:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: unspun; All
FYI
284 posted on 03/10/2003 10:30:25 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic; Rachumlakenschlaff
FYI

Why thank you. An underlying construct, very applicable in today's fashion of thought and locus of mind.

285 posted on 03/10/2003 10:36:49 AM PST by unspun (A well regulated Baseball Team being necessary, the right to swing bats shall not be impinged.)
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To: unspun
An underlying construct, very applicable in today's fashion of thought and locus of mind.

UH-OH. I may have committed a faux paux. Are underlying constructs okay before Spring?

286 posted on 03/10/2003 10:51:10 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Oops! Belated hugs and *smooch*!

Let's have no more of this belated stuff. When you post to me, you better pucker up! [Hugs!]

287 posted on 03/10/2003 11:49:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
LOLOL! Hugs and *smooches*!
288 posted on 03/10/2003 12:06:07 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
Can you guys please hold it down over there? How can a guy think in here with all this metaphysical smooching and making-out going on!

Cordially,

289 posted on 03/10/2003 12:59:44 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
Metaphysical smooching placemarker.
290 posted on 03/10/2003 1:11:05 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Diamond
Can you guys please hold it down over there?

This is the "Smokey Backroom." A-Girl and I intend to indulge ourselves here. Just look the other way.

291 posted on 03/10/2003 2:52:06 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: tacticalogic
Would it be possible for you to reply with something respondant to what I posted, in English?

I don't know your 1st language ... what is it --- evobonics // mother goose ? ?

292 posted on 03/10/2003 3:57:02 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God =Truth + love courage // LIBERTY logic + SANITY + Awakening + ))
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To: f.Christian
I don't know your 1st language

And I don't know why you have to try and turn a comment about the general nature of objectivity into a pissing match about evolution.

293 posted on 03/10/2003 4:08:22 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic; f.Christian; Diamond; general_re
...turn a comment about the general nature of objectivity into a pissing match about evolution.

Well to be fair to all, that grand urological contest is the context for this thread. Chuckling... fC, you do have a distinctive way of communicating; have I mentioned that before? It makes for... something, though I'm not sure "reasonable discussion" is quite what I would say. (It might take betty boop to describe our various processes of the conscious self, while reading them.) I wonder if reflects a kind of mutation - not yours of course. (Those very rarely are for the good, as you know.) Maybe it's a duplicate code of some kind in your PC.

Waiting for the next picture... and no, you can't use one of f.Christian's posts.

(You know I love and respect you fC.)

But, no hugs or kisses solicited, metaphysical or otherwise. My genetics are mostly British and Scandanavian, afterall.

Evobonics, eh? -chuckles-

294 posted on 03/10/2003 5:03:43 PM PST by unspun (Who want's to be in the Free Republic Federalist League? (Imaginary Baseball))
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...Imaginary Baseball, inevitably based upon Reality, however.
295 posted on 03/10/2003 5:09:44 PM PST by unspun (Who want's to be in the Free Republic Federalist League? (Imaginary Baseball))
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To: unspun
Well to be fair to all, that grand urological contest is the context for this thread.

True enough, but I came in late, and only responded to you and the specific post you pinged me to. I've spent the day trying to solve an integration problem while the vendors engage in an endless game of round robin finger pointing. Engaging in a simple adult conversation without some yapping little rat dog hanging off my pant cuff didn't seem like too much to ask for.

296 posted on 03/10/2003 5:23:49 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: general_re
Well? Bring on the next image!
297 posted on 03/10/2003 5:52:16 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: tacticalogic; Diamond
Appreciate your contribution. The 'Design Inference Game' is a challenge to test an Intelligent Design theorist's ideas about the ability (man's ability) to tell design from naturalistic development, via certain criteria. Ten pictures will be presented by general_re, and it's up to Diamond to tell what is what and why.

While he waits for the next picture, it might be nice for Diamond to post any link he might have, to this ID theorist and criteria! (Pardon if alread done.)

Popcorn would be nice, too.

298 posted on 03/10/2003 6:25:42 PM PST by unspun (Fantasy baseball is a real game of the imagination, based on reality.)
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To: Diamond; general_re
Diamond: That large mound of bits and pieces of earth held together by adhesive can only be the result of design. If you need the rationale I will attempt to give it tomorrow am.

Sorry to intrude (and I understand you have been sidetracked of late, Diamond), but I was interested in the explanation behind the conclusion. Or did I just miss it?

299 posted on 03/10/2003 6:49:23 PM PST by Condorman
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To: unspun
Sounds interesting. Structures whose development is dependent on fractals are going to be fun to figure out. From an engineers standpoing, if there is intelligent design, ie "form", then the next question is to function.
300 posted on 03/10/2003 7:21:28 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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