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To: Junior
"Where's the physical evidence of this flood?"

Everywhere you look. From the unusual horizontal erosion-marks around the base of The Sphynx to the Grand Canyon to the fossil layer found in rapidly deposited sediment, all are pure proof of the Global Flood as told in the story of Noah.

Just as the recently discovered, charred remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah verify that Biblical account.

How do you explain that, of all the lost ancient civilizations mentioned in the Bible, only one was predicted to rise again (Israel), and only one did? Take your time, pup, I'll wait for your answer.

Then we'll address the 2,400+ other predictions made in The Bible which have come true. You have not a leg upon which to stand when you defy The Truth of Almighty God.

314 posted on 02/25/2003 10:50:44 AM PST by Gargantua (Are you with U.S. or against U.S.?)
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To: Gargantua
wow. bible prophecy, flood myths, sphinx "proofs." you're a live one, huh?

Boiling you down, you actually believe that your loving god killed the entire earth's population 5000 or so years ago, except for one exceptionally skilled natural history buff named Noah? And this incredible specimen collector was actually able to collect, 2x2, every animal (Ok, that's "kinds" to you, whatever that means), put them on his ark, care for them, feed them, etc during a 40 year (!) rainstorm. man, what WON'T you believe?! And you are (presumably) an adult?!

Of course, forgiving the obvious-to-anyone astronomical impossiblities inherent to your story, there's that little problem about what happened after this global flood (which, by the way, was a borrowed story from earlier religions, but we'll let that slide). The genetic pool was a bit watered down (pun intended), no? Yes, yes, genetic codes were "perfect" back in the day, right? (but then again, Adam's fall makes that moot, right? hmmm) And the first generation progeny was somehow able to mate amongst themselves with success, right? And Noah, God bless 'im, certainly had his work cut out to get the humans going again.

On and on and on. Was the Flintstones a learning tool for you?

As far as your "bible prophecies" have come true silliness, If I had the time (and if I thought it would have the slightest effect on you) I could have fun with that. How many times has Armageddon come and gone now? See, for "prophecy" to work, you've gotta tell me about it BEFORE it happens.

ps. Santa's reideer don't really fly.
328 posted on 02/25/2003 11:13:22 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: Gargantua
From the unusual horizontal erosion-marks around the base of The Sphynx to the Grand Canyon to the fossil layer found in rapidly deposited sediment, all are pure proof of the Global Flood as told in the story of Noah.

OK, let's start out with the Grand Canyon. True enough, there are many, many layers of horizontal sedimentary rocks. large angular unconformity - or other sedimentary layers that were subsequently tilted, eroded and then they became a depositional surface. In addition, if there was a singular, great flood, there would be a transgression and regression sequence in the Grand Canyon - rocks would go from shallow-water to deep-water depositional forms and then back again in a singular sequence. Instead, you see many different depositional environments, including some terrestial sandstones. How does the Genesis account of the flood account for this?


337 posted on 02/25/2003 11:21:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Maybe you should take this one.
380 posted on 02/25/2003 2:19:18 PM PST by Junior (I want my, I want my, I want my chimpanzees)
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To: Gargantua
"Where's the physical evidence of this flood?"

Everywhere you look.

Okay, let's look at the strata of North Dakota, which contains a *complete* geologic column. Strange, not a single layer in it is consistent with a cataclysmic flood. So it's not "everywhere you look", as promised. Care to try again?

From the unusual horizontal erosion-marks around the base of The Sphynx

Surely even a creationist should be able to realize that if there were a world-engulfing flood which "covered all the mountains", there would be erosion marks on more than just the *BASE* of the Sphinx...

to the Grand Canyon

I regret to inform you that you are mistaken. There's no sign of a cataclysmic flood in the strata of the Grand Canyon. Do try again...

to the fossil layer found in rapidly deposited sediment,

"The" fossil layer? There ain't no such one, except locally, in places that had, surprise surprise, local floods at some time or another.

all are pure proof of the Global Flood as told in the story of Noah.

Three strikes, you're out.

Just as the recently discovered, charred remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah verify that Biblical account.

Oh come on, no one has claimed that there aren't historical accounts in the Bible. The writers of the Bible would have described events and places in their own past accurately enough (taking into account the vagaries of oral histories). But that doesn't prove that God was behind the disaster.

How do you explain that, of all the lost ancient civilizations mentioned in the Bible, only one was predicted to rise again (Israel), and only one did? Take your time, pup, I'll wait for your answer.

Argue it out with this guy, he thinks the predicted rise of Israel hasn't happened *yet*...

But to answer your question, out of all the predictions in the Bible (many vague enough to fit nearly *anything*, and many demonstrably failed), they were bound to get lucky on at least *one* of them.

Now your turn -- what about the several times that Christ clearly predicted that his second coming and the end of the world would occur within the lifetimes of those he was speaking to? Either they're a few thousand years old now, or the end of the world has happened and we somehow didn't notice -- or the prophecy was wrong.

Then we'll address the 2,400+ other predictions made in The Bible which have come true.

Uh huh... Unless you're counting such "predictions" as "grass is green", you're really overstating the case here.

554 posted on 02/26/2003 2:51:22 AM PST by Ichneumon
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