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Libertarians Look for a State to Call Their Own. (Free State Project)
The Everett Herald (WA) | 2/23/2003 | reprint from the Baltimore Sun

Posted on 02/23/2003 7:55:12 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Edited on 02/23/2003 7:57:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Plans are under way for an invasion of New Hampshire. Or Wyoming. Or maybe Delaware, Montana or Alaska. Sparsely populated and independent in spirit, they're all attractive targets for a certain bloodless coup in the making.

Within the next several years, according to the plan, 20,000 Libertarians would move to a single state and begin infiltrating. They'd get jobs, join civic groups, get elected and take a hatchet to taxes and laws. In this utopia called the Free State Project, schools would be severed from the state, gun-control laws abolished, drugs legalized, health and social services privatized, and most federal aid rejected. Government's only job would be to protect against "force and fraud."


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To: Cultural Jihad
Now that you have been exposed for your disruptive antics, I'm signing off for the night. Seek help.
321 posted on 02/24/2003 10:59:43 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: Protagoras
I've been member & lurker, far longer than you have been. I have known / debated with CJ, Roscoe,Kevin Curry, Dane, and those no longer here, far longer than you have. I've done battle on Libertarian threads forever and yes, I HAVE read every LP web site, that Libertarians have sent me too. I know more about what the LP stands for / says, than 99.9% of Libertarians ( both large & small l types ) who have ever been on FR. What you claim to be ad hominems, are statements of fact; for the most part. You just can't seem to deal with fact.

There IS no " alert list "; none at all. If there were such a thing, I'd be on it. LOL

There was , at one time, a PING list, that Libertarians did use, so that they could bait, flame, ridicule, and try to demoralize any Republican Conservative, who was either alone, or in a pair on a Libertarian thread/ one which they had taken over. That's a fact ! That you were never part of that mob, must mean that you are just now tryiong to " come in from the cold ".

Few FR Libertarians have reached advanced ages. tpaine is one and he loves, or used to, spit at those opposing him, by crowing that they were all supporting him, via Social Security. Are you a member of his club ?

Jim started out as a Dem... a " Conservative " one, but still a Dem and was still a registered one, when he started FR. Obviously, YOU don't know very much about one of the owners of this forum. He isn't, BTW, the ONLY owner and I'm not talking about his son, either. You are making statements about a person , which are your opinion and NOT fact.

Oh, you poor dear. You want to " debate " me, about any topic, at any time ? You haven't an iota of an idea what such a debate would be like. I shan't take you up on that; I do so hate to see grown men cry. ; ^ )

No, I don't know you. You don't post much. I have replied to what YOU have posted. I have refuted you. I have assusmed nothing ; unlike you. Also, unlike you, I remember what I post. I suggest that you not make accuzations, prior to either checking on what you've previously typed / or when you have little to no information about the topic.

When dear CJ or dear Roscoe post a funny picture ( or even a serious one ) it is with valid reason. Mostly, they're funny and don't insult posters. If you're REALLY as " old " as you claim to be, didn't you enjoy the SHMOOS ? I certainly did; fond childhood memories. :-)

Oh, and something you need to ponder: making fun of a nic / using a nic to insult that poster is reprehensible and juvenile. CJ's nic was chosen long before " JIHAD " had any horrid conotation to Americans. Heck, " jihad " is used in the " DUNE " books ... are you going to make a big deal about that ? A lot of Islamistic words were used in the " DUNE " series and the first one was written 4 decades ago. Get a grip !

You're paranoid about an " alert list ", which doesn't exists. You have a projection problem, as well. These problems can be helped ; get some. I mean that with all sincerity, dear.

322 posted on 02/24/2003 10:59:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Protagoras
You are incapable of posting, without the senseless use of personal attacks. No wonder you got a temporary ban.
323 posted on 02/24/2003 11:01:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Cultural Jihad
It is patently obvious, isn't it, that many Libertarians and libertarians aren't happy here and don't like / think highly of Jim. Then, they call others " disruptors " , because they dare to state opposing views to theirs. All too true to form, pathetic, sad, and part of their own delusions.
324 posted on 02/24/2003 11:06:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I attribute their anarcho-angst to traumatic toilet training.
325 posted on 02/24/2003 11:13:49 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Or too early weaning. LOL
326 posted on 02/24/2003 11:19:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
When dear CJ or dear Roscoe post a funny picture ( or even a serious one ) it is with valid reason.

The Shmoo believed that the only way to happiness was to bring happiness to others. Li'l Abner discovered Shmoos when he ventured into the forbidden Valley of the Shmoon, against the frantic protestations of Ol' Man Mose. "Shmoos," he warned, "is the greatest menace to hoomanity th' world has evah known." "Thass becuz they is so bad, huh?" asked Li'l Abner. "No, stupid," answered Mose, hurling one of life's profoundest paradoxes at Li'l Abner. "It's because they're so good!"

http://www.lil-abner.com/shmoo.html

Libertarians won't understand.

327 posted on 02/25/2003 12:34:05 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
No, Libertarians won't understand, but I do and thank you , mightily, for rekindling my old love of SHMOONS and some very happy childhood memories. :-)
328 posted on 02/25/2003 12:39:35 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
The conspiracy is too vast to quantify.

Shhh. You've already revealed too much!

329 posted on 02/25/2003 12:51:25 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Protagoras

330 posted on 02/25/2003 1:09:46 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TELL!

Dean Wormer is going to have a lot to say about this breach of security, you know.

331 posted on 02/25/2003 4:48:53 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: exnavy
bump
332 posted on 02/25/2003 6:17:40 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Cultural Jihad
Actually, I have NEVER mentioned some so-called "alert list". When others have mentioned it, I have simply stated that it would not suprise me if such a thing existed.

As you can see. I'm not on suspension either. I went home for the day (yet another benefit of long testing cycles).

Once again, you are proven a LIAR.

333 posted on 02/25/2003 6:51:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse

No one said you were.

334 posted on 02/25/2003 6:53:27 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
I attribute their anarcho-angst to traumatic toilet training.

The poster forgot to mention all your ad hominems. Now you seem to have an unnatural interest in toilet habits. It could explain a lot.

335 posted on 02/25/2003 6:53:45 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Cultural Jihad
Really?

Liar again.

336 posted on 02/25/2003 6:56:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Mentioning your suspension is hardly the same thing as saying you ARE suspended.

To quote an 'unimpeachable source':
"Four years worth of posting here and I got side-lined for a couple days for the first time just last month." -Dead Corpse

337 posted on 02/25/2003 7:01:26 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: nopardons
I've been member & lurker, far longer than you have been.

Incorrect, better check the dates. And as to your lurker claim, I not only lurked here but posted here under a different name way back then. Unless you got here before it started you couldn't be here FAR longer. You are delusional.

There IS no " alert list "; none at all. If there were such a thing, I'd be on it. LOL

You don't get it, you are a lightweight. Your posts are childish, like this one. They look at you as the village idiot. You are a joke to them, a useful idiot. They don't include you because you don't matter. Get it now?

Oh, you poor dear. You want to " debate " me, about any topic, at any time ? You haven't an iota of an idea what such a debate would be like. I shan't take you up on that; I do so hate to see grown men cry. ; ^ )

They won't either, it's because none of you have the ability. As to the Taliban confederates of yours, Jihad speaks for itself. Some of the others are profoundly disturbed. You may visit them in prison some day, it's a matter of time before those veins in their neck bulge out and they hurt someone.

338 posted on 02/25/2003 7:06:56 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: nopardons
Libertarians and libertarians aren't happy here . . .

I've noticed Libertarians and libertarians are rarely happy PERIOD. Drowing in a sea of abudance, blessed (through no efforts of their own) with the greatest measure of meaningful freedom that any nation has enjoyed in the history of mankind, they carp and complain about being "denied" the right to engage in destructive behavior that they profess to have no desire to ever engage in.

339 posted on 02/25/2003 7:12:28 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Protagoras
You pathetic, bitter, blight-soul befouled, miserable, chain-dragging creature. Has anyone been so miserabale since the days before Auschwitz gave up its walking dead?

*Sigh* You poor wretch. *Sigh*

340 posted on 02/25/2003 7:14:37 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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