Teenager Shot By Drug Agents Dies - 14-Year-Old Taken Off Life-Support

[chance33_98]

Teenager Shot By Drug Agents Dies

14-Year-Old Taken Off Life-Support

Posted: 8:51 a.m. CST February 12, 2003

SAN ANTONIO -- A teenage girl who was shot by Drug Enforcement Administration agents died Tuesday night at Wilford Hall Medical Center.

Ashley Villarreal (pictured, left), 14, was taken off life-support equipment after she was declared brain dead from a gunshot wound she suffered to the back of her head late Sunday night.

DEA officials and San Antonio police officials said that agents fired four rounds at a car Villarreal was driving because the vehicle was speeding toward them and they suspected the girl's father, a suspected drug dealer, was in the vehicle trying to get away. Joey Angel Villarreal, who was the subject of surveillance that night, was not in the car with his daughter. He ended up turning himself in to authorities Monday.

"It was no mistake," said Daniel Robles, a family friend who was in the car with the teen. "It was no accident."

Robles said the agents were not wearing rain gear during the surveillance and claimed that they allegedly boxed in Villarreal's car and opened fire.

"These are professionals," Robles said. "There's nothing professional about this."

Law officers declined to respond to Robles' version or to discuss details of the case Tuesday, citing a pending investigation.

Robles, who was with family members when they said they last goodbyes to the teen, said he promised her that his version of the story will come out.

"Ashley's dead. They took her life. Nothing's gonna bring it back," Robles said.

[Stew Padasso]

Here is another one:

This thread has been pulled.

Pulled on 02/11/2003 1:12 PM EST by Admin Moderator, reason:
Useless flame war.

[philman_36]

First off I'm not LE.
Well, you're "something" to use such language in casual conversation.
I guess I've been so indoctrinated by the liberal media that I felt as though "alleged" was the word to use so as not to further inflame some on this thread.
You used more than just "alleged". "Alleged drug vehicle" was what you used! That doesn't come from liberal media indoctrination. I guess I'll have to accept that though as it is probably the only explanation I'll ever get.

All of your questions are good ones and since the video was shot after the fact I'm afraid I don't know all of the answers.
I know what to look for having investigated quite a few accidents myself.
I simply wanted to correct what I thought were faulty conclusions based upon the sketchy details in this article.
I simply wanted to know how you knew what you knew. Thanks for clearing things up.
Sorry to have been so analytical.

[Chess]

"Anyway like I stated before, her father the 3 time convicted drug dealer bears the brunt of this tragedy, IMHO. "

This poor child had a drug-dealer dad thru no fault of her own. Having a criminal for a father did not make her a legit target! Poor child!

[MineralMan]

"This poor child had a drug-dealer dad thru no fault of her own. Having a criminal for a father did not make her a legit target! Poor child!"

Watching the videos from the local news, I note that the TV station could not find any criminal record for the father. That, of course, does not mean that there was not one, but...

And, as you say, children in the USA are not responsible for the crimes of their fathers. That's only true in the Old Testament.

Another interesting thing I read in the newspaper reports was that the guy with the girl, name of Trevino, was drunk that night. Maybe this kid was just trying to drive him home to keep him from driving while drunk. "Friends don't let friends drive drunk," eh?

In any case, the kid's dead and the stories are conflicting. We'll see if the truth comes out or does not. That is, we'll see if we don't just forget to check.

[m18436572]

Right or wrong, the cop will be living the rest of his life knowing he terminated a 14 yr. old girls life. He's already in hell. Unless he has no concience.

[Rifleman]

He works for the DEA. The surgically remove the concience along with the soul when you take the job.

[MineralMan]

"Right or wrong, the cop will be living the rest of his life knowing he terminated a 14 yr. old girls life. He's already in hell. Unless he has no concience."

And we won't know that. But we do know, for sure, that a 14-year-old girl is dead. She _was_ shot by one of the DEA officers. That much we _do_ know. How he'll be living, we cannot know. I'm not that much concerned with _his_ manner of living, to be frank. I'm concerned that a kid is dead, and with ways we could prevent such shootings from happening in the future.

My question here is: Why did the DEA officers not arrest the two when they emerged from the house? Why did they wait until they got in the car, then block their path? That's a question I'd like answered.

[jodorowsky]

Right there you decided to take a personal animistic position towards me.

I for one would never take an animistic position towards you. I'd need evidence of an indwelling soul, first.

[jodorowsky]

Oops, 228 went the wrong way!

Apologies, ANB.

[philman_36]

I don't know that I've pegged anybody, but I do know that not very many people know what to look for at the scene of an accident simply from not having any experience in that area.
Studying of the video may/would give clues of the point of contact that you are not supposed to be looking for/at.
I'm trying to do just that.

[philman_36]

Thanks for the video links.

[rmvh]

Re your # 8....

The father is the one who put his daughter's life in danger, IMHO

Perfectly absurd reply....

[hoosierskypilot]

any reasonable person would have interpreted the stop as a criminal attack

No doubt, but at 14, I was not of the mentality to ram vehicles in that situation. I don't think that (ramming vehicles) is a logical response for a normal person.

[MineralMan]

"No doubt, but at 14, I was not of the mentality to ram vehicles in that situation. I don't think that (ramming vehicles) is a logical response for a normal person."

Panic causes all sorts of strange reactions, especially from immature persons. However, my father taught me from a very early age that if someone tried to stop me while in a car, I should stomp on the gas and drive on. He said, rightly so, that the people would clear out of the way. He was right, and I did have to do that one time in West Central L.A. It worked a treat.

[hoosierskypilot]

BTW, the AM said they were pulling this thread. Just exactly what does that mean and where did they pull it to?

[truenospinzone]

I don't think that (ramming vehicles) is a logical response for a normal person.

What do you believe the "logical response" under this admittedly unproven scenario would be? A fourteen-year-old girl is driving a vehicle in the presence of an adult passenger, and several unmarked vehicles block her in without identifying themselves as LEOs. The vehicle she is driving presumably does not contain weapons. What else could she have possibly done to get out of the situation? I consider myself a "normal person", usually, and my "logical response" without question would absolutely have been to ram the cars and drive the hell away.

[MineralMan]

"I consider myself a "normal person", usually, and my "logical response" without question would absolutely have been to ram the cars and drive the hell away."

Well, actually hoosierskypilot has a point. Most people would just freeze, I suspect, since that's what most people do when trapped. If you consider "normal" to be what most people do, then I suppose freezing would be "normal."

Survivors, however, do not do this. They instantly analyze a situation and _act_. If they're planners, they may actually have mentally rehearsed what they would have done under such strange situations and would react instantly. That's what I did when blocked on a street by a gang. I had thought about what I would do, and had been coached by my father when I was a kid. I did it, and survived.

I'm still unconvinced that the DEA guys were wearing their identifying jackets or vests. Typically, in an undercover stakeout, such are not worn, if I'm not mistaken. I suspect that they acted, shot this girl, thinking her to be a suspect trying to run them over....then put their vests or jackets on.

If so, they're in the wrong here, totally. If I saw unidentified people trying to block my way, I'd ram the cars, too, and try to escape.

[weikel]

The story implies that the fedgoons were not in uniform and the cars were unmarked. If this is the case, any reasonable person would have interpreted the stop as a criminal attack. I sure would have.

Oh I think she had a pretty good idea who they were... I think the father was in business with them and didn't make quota. I have no evidence for this its just a hunch.

[LowOiL]

The simple fact that they were in plain (gangbanger) clothes and not wearinr Raid Vests or Jackets is ample to make this a bad shoot.

According the this article, filed by local TV and NOT the police. It plainly Refutes your above statement above. Again this is not from the Police but from a TV report.

http://www.clickonsa.com/ant/news/stories/news-196991920030211-090239.html

SAN ANTONIO -- A 14-year-old girl who was shot by federal drug agents remained on life support Tuesday at Wilford Hall Medical Center.

Ashley Villarreal (pictured, left) suffered a gunshot wound to the head after Drug Enforcement Administration officers fired four rounds toward a car the teenager was driving, officials said.

The shooting occurred late Sunday night during surveillance of the girl's home in the 800 block of San Joaquin.

Officials said plain-clothed DEA officers were trying to apprehend the girl's father when the teenager and another man, described as a caretaker for the girl's grandmother, got into a car and started to drive away.

The federal agents said when they tried to stop the pair, the girl, who was driving, drove the car toward the agents. Officials said that's when the agents opened fire.

"It looked like a gang (shootout)," said Kayla Hernandez, a neighbor who watched the incident from her home. "Those narcs and the DEA didn't put on their jackets until after the cops got here."

But Adriana Martinez, a neighbor, said the agents were well identified.

"When I checked outside ... they already had the jackets on," Martinez said.
Family and friends said that Villarreal got into the vehicle to park it when she apparently panicked and was unaware it was DEA agents who were trying to stop her.

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FYI...

LowOiL

[MineralMan]

"Oh I think she had a pretty good idea who they were... I think the father was in business with them and didn't make quota. I have no evidence for this its just a hunch."

No, you don't have any evidence of this...none at all. You're just speculating. Why don't we stick with what little factual information we have here? I see no point in making assumptions like yours. We have no reason to believe that the DEA officers were "in business" with this dealer. None.