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To: Dataman
Let's be honest now Dan. Criticism by peers isn't the issue. Criticism of the theory is discouraged and even enforced by law in the public schools. A system as sound and proven as evolution shouldn't be afraid of criticism. You people feel free to criticize creationism. Now what if we used the power of the government to stop critcism and smugly claim that peers criticize the system regularly? Where is your sense of fairness? Double standards seem to be the rule here.

Creation doesn't fear criticism nor does it demand the removal of the evolutionary theory from schools.

Did I leave out the word "public?" Those right-wing fundamentalists, People for the American Way commissioned a survey within the last two years that showed parents who favored creation wanted both views taught in schools while parents who favored evolution wanted evolution only. Now doesn't that tell you something about the indefensible nature of evolution?

Let's get real, shall we?

Parents who want creationism taught in SCIENCE class are clueless about what science is.

Science is about facts, and evidence.

When you say god did this, Creationism/ID, you are talking about religion, NOT SCIENCE. No matter how many times you restate, fall back etc, it comes down to the same crap.

Creationists, who are clueless about science, Literal creationists that is, want their "theory" taught in science class. Sorry there Dataman, but creationism is NOT science and therefore should NOT be taught in science class.

If you have a TRUE SCIENTIFIC theory that would compete with evolution for scientists attention, I will be the first one to say, GREAT, let's do it, because the students should be allowed to see competing SCIENTIFIC Theories.

Problem is, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!! ID is a religious theory, there is NO evidence of a grand designer, scientifically. You Idr's just say, ohh, that's so complicated, must be designed.

That's like me looking at my car and saying, oohhh, that's too complicated, god must have done it. Come on, all I have to do is study a bit, and what do you know, I can understand my car. Well, REAL scientists look at an organism, and go ohh, isn't that complicated, let's see how that might have come to be.

You take comfort in creationism, WONDERFUL, then teach it to your kids, but it is NOT science, no matter how many different ways you say it.

Please see my tag line.

It's an easy, easy thing to understand, all it takes is a little LOGIC.
796 posted on 01/21/2003 9:31:36 AM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Aric2000
Just calling evolution a theory is an overstatement . . . only an idea - - - an ideology // oddity ! ! !
798 posted on 01/21/2003 9:55:00 AM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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To: Aric2000
Science is about facts, and evidence.

Yes it is. That is why evolution isn't science.

We'll nail you guys every time you SAY you are scientific and then defend the theory for which there is no evidence.

802 posted on 01/21/2003 10:12:15 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Aric2000
"If you have a TRUE SCIENTIFIC theory that would compete with evolution for scientists attention, I will be the first one to say, GREAT, let's do it, because the students should be allowed to see competing SCIENTIFIC Theories."

I'm glad you are so open minded. Then you would not be opposed to information being presented which some say pokes holes in the theory of evolution - as long as it is scientific information, of course, right?

834 posted on 01/21/2003 2:46:56 PM PST by MEGoody
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