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Refuting Darwinism, point by point
WorldNetDaily,com ^ | 1-11-03 | Interview of James Perloff

Posted on 01/11/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DWar

EVOLUTION WATCH Refuting Darwinism, point by point Author's new book presents case against theory in just 83 pages

Posted: January 11, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: In 1999, author James Perloff wrote the popular "Tornado in a Junkyard," which summarizes much of the evidence against evolution and is considered one of the most understandable (while still scientifically accurate) books on the subject. Recently, WND talked with Perloff about his new book, "The Case Against Darwin."

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QUESTION: Your new book is just 83 pages – and the type is large. What gives?

ANSWER: This past March I got a call from Ohio. There has been a battle there to allow critical examination of evolutionary theory in public schools, and a gentleman wanted 40 copies of Tornado to give to state legislators and school board members. I was delighted to send him the books, but I also knew that a state legislator isn't likely to pick up anything that's 321 pages long.

Q: And not just state legislators.

A: Right. We live in an age when parents often don't have time to read anything long, and their kids, who are usually more into video, may not have the inclination.

Q: So what's the focus of this book?

A: I've divided it into three chapters. The first is called "Is Darwin's Theory Relevant to Our Lives?" In other words, is the subject of this book worth my time or not? A lot of people think this is simply a science issue. And to some of them, science is booooring. But actually, it's the teaching of Darwin's theory as a "fact" that starts many young people doubting the existence of God. Once we stop believing in God, we discard his moral laws and start making up our own rules, which is basically why our society is in so much trouble. In short, Darwinism is very relevant – it's much more than a science matter.

Q: You, yourself, were an atheist for many years, were you not, as a result of evolutionary teaching?

A: That's right. I thought evolution had discredited the Bible. In my books, I give examples of notables who became atheists from being taught evolution, such as Stalin and Carnegie. In fact, the atheist Boy Scout who's been in the news reportedly attributes his atheism to being taught evolution.

Q: Why do you think evolution has such a persuasively negative effect on faith?

A: First, it's taught as "scientific fact." When kids hear "scientific fact," they think "truth." Who wants to go against truth? Second, it's the only viewpoint that's taught. After the Supreme Court kicked God out of schools in the '60s, kids heard the evolutionist viewpoint exclusively. It's like going to a courtroom – if you only heard the prosecutor's summation, you would probably think the defendant guilty. But if you only heard the defendant's attorney, you'd think "innocent." The truth is, we need to hear both sides, and kids haven't been getting it on the subject of origins.

Q: OK, then what?

A: The second chapter is "Evidence Against the Theory of Evolution." Let's face it, no matter what Darwinism's social ramifications, that alone would not be a sufficient basis to criticize it, if it were scientifically proven true.

Q: In a nutshell – if that's possible – what is the scientific evidence against Darwinism?

A: In the book, I focus on six areas of evidence. First, mutations – long claimed by evolutionists to be the building blocks of evolutionary change – are now known to remove information from the genetic code. They never create higher, more complex information – even in the rare cases of beneficial mutations, such as bacterial resistance to antibiotics. That has been laid out by Dr. Lee Spetner in his book "Not By Chance."

Q: What else?

A: Second, cells are now known to be far too complex to have originated by some chance concurrence of chemicals, as Darwin hypothesized and is still being claimed. We detail that in the book. Third, the human body has systems, such as blood clotting and the immune system, that are, in the words of biochemist Michael Behe, "irreducibly complex," meaning they cannot have evolved step-by-step. Behe articulated that in his book "Darwin's Black Box." And then there is the whole issue of transitional forms.

Q: What is a transitional form?

A: Darwin's theory envisioned that single-celled ancestors evolved into invertebrates (creatures without a backbone), who evolved into fish, who evolved into amphibians, who evolved into reptiles, who evolved into mammals. Now, a transitional form would be a creature intermediate between these. There would have to be a great many for Darwin's theory to be true.

Q: Are there?

A: There are three places to look for transitional forms. First, there's the living world around us. We see that it is distinctly divided – you have invertebrates, fish, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. But we don't see transitionals between them. If these creatures ever existed, why did none survive? It is too easy to explain it away by saying they all became extinct. And of course, there is the question: Why aren't these creatures evolving into each other today? Why aren't invertebrates evolving into fish today? Why aren't fish growing little legs and so forth?

Q: Where else would you look for a transitional form?

A: In the fossil record. And here we have a problem of almost comparable magnitude. We find no fossils showing how the invertebrates evolved, or demonstrating that they came from a common ancestor. That's why you hear of the "Cambrian explosion." And while there are billions of fossils of both invertebrates and fish, fossils linking them are missing. Of course, there are some transitional fossils cited by evolutionists. However, two points about that. First, there should be a lot more if Darwin's theory is correct. Second, 99 percent of the biology of an organism is in its soft anatomy, which you cannot access in a fossil – this makes it easy to invest a fossil with a highly subjective opinion. The Piltdown Man and the recent Archaeoraptor are examples of how easy it is to be misled by preconceptions in this arena.

Q: What is the other place where you can look for transitional forms?

A: Microscopically, in the cell itself. Dr. Michael Denton, the Australian molecular biologist, examined these creatures on a molecular level and found no evidence whatsoever for the fish-amphibian-reptile-mammal sequence. He summarized his findings in his book "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis."

The last chapter is "Re-evaluating Some Evidences Used to Support the Theory" of evolution. That would include evidences that have been discredited, and also some evidences presented as proof that in fact rest on assumptions.

Q: What evidences have been discredited?

A: Ernst Haeckel's comparative embryo drawings. The human body being laden with "vestigial structures" from our animal past. Human blood and sea water having the same percentage of salt. Babies being born with "monkey tails." These are not foundational evidences, but they still hold sway in the public mind.

Q: You mentioned assumptions as proofs.

A: Yes. Anatomical similarities between men and animals are said to prove common ancestry. But intelligent design also results in innumerable similarities, as in the case of two makes of automobile. Also, what has been called "microevolution" – minor adaptive changes within a type of animal – is extrapolated as evidence for "macroevolution" – the changing of one kind of animal into another. However, a species is normally endowed with a rich gene pool that permits a certain amount of variation and adaptation. Certainly, those things happen. But the change is ordinarily limited to the confines of the gene pool. It doesn't mean a fish could adapt its way into being a human.

Q: You covered a lot of this ground in "Tornado in a Junkyard." Can readers expect something new from "The Case Against Darwin"?

A: There is a bit of new material, but no, if you've read "Tornado," or for that matter, if you read the July 2001 Whistleblower, where we looked at evolution, you already know most of the points. What's new is the size. This is a book to give to a busy friend, a book for a high-school student to share with his science teacher.

"The Case Against Darwin" by James Perloff is available from ShopNetDaily.


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To: Aric2000
". . .and even tries to say if this is here, then we are missing something here, and that missing something is found, . . ."

That "missing something" is the mechanism that drives all the changes evolution purports to observe. No scientist has ever explained it to my satisfaction, let alone observed it in action and recorded it for the rest of us to see. Until they do I will not blindly assume certain ancient writings must be dismissed as pure fiction.

And if you think I am in the same boat as those who believe "creationism is science" you are mistaken.

I see the "strawman" theme has come about again. "Swiss Cheese and Strawmen." Yes. that would be a fine tune for the swamp toads to work on. Repeat as needed. Oh, wait. I stand corrected per jokester. That's "swamp frogs."

841 posted on 01/21/2003 2:53:41 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Diana Rose
"As long as nuts go to Bagdad as "Human" shields Darwinism will be a good theory"

LOL!

842 posted on 01/21/2003 2:54:30 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: general_re
"What did you have in mind?"

Ah, so now you want to hedge. . .

843 posted on 01/21/2003 2:57:18 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
some say pokes holes in the theory of evolution

I would LOVE to see these scientifically verifiable facts, because I guarantee that they do NOT poke holes in the theory of evolution. Otherwise there would be NO Theory of Evolution. If there were facts that poked holes in evolution, science would either A: change the theory to fit into these new facts, or B: Toss out the old theory and start from scratch. Since Evolution is still a scientific theory, your facts are either A: accounted for within the theory, or B: scientifically unverifiable.

And PLEASE, no flagellum or irreducibly complex stuff either please, because that ID stuff is WAY old and NOT scientifically verified, NOR verifiable. That is why it is religious and not science.

But, please, feel free to give it your best shot, we'd ALL love to hear it.
844 posted on 01/21/2003 2:58:24 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: Nebullis
Close ;)

Q: How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: You're still thinking procedurally! A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class!

845 posted on 01/21/2003 2:59:28 PM PST by general_re (Think green...burn only 100% recycled dinosaurs in your car.)
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To: MEGoody
Ah, so now you want to hedge. . .

Asking you to lay your cards on the table is "hedging"? Suppose I asked to present evidence in schools that would tend to refute the theory that the Founding Fathers were from Earth. Would you be "hedging" if you asked to see my evidence before allowing me to jump right into the history classes with it?

846 posted on 01/21/2003 3:05:19 PM PST by general_re (Think green...burn only 100% recycled dinosaurs in your car.)
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To: whattajoke
The .1% is made up of guys who knowingly lie to make money on their books and videos from the uneducated flock.

Are you so deceived and confused that you think anyone that says they believe God created humans is either is a greedy liar or stupid ?
847 posted on 01/21/2003 3:12:53 PM PST by usastandsunited
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To: Physicist
I reject the premise that science requires either facts or evidence.

The examples you gave depend a great deal on evidence. Without the evidence of the senses, not even the questions could be formulated. What you are saying is that no new evidence is used in those descriptions, just an analysis of existing evidence--a new look at existing concepts.

Science IS the use of reason to interpret the evidence of our senses. Even the science of logic or mathematics uses evidence--introspective evidence. Even scientific speculation (theorizing about what might be real) must be consistent with reason and evidence.

Bad science occurs with faulty reasoning or a conceptual break with the observed. Often this is in the form of claiming as real that which has neither been rationally deduced nor observed.

848 posted on 01/21/2003 3:15:34 PM PST by beavus (Butthead! Butthead! Come quick! Bare ass on TV!!)
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To: general_re
A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class!

Perfect analysis. That what the creationists have been saying all along.
849 posted on 01/21/2003 3:20:49 PM PST by usastandsunited
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To: general_re
How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb?

Three. One to write the filament method and one to encapsulate in the bulb class. The third is to rewrite the whole damn thing using templates.

850 posted on 01/21/2003 3:22:40 PM PST by beavus (Butthead! Butthead! Come quick! Bare ass on TV!!)
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To: usastandsunited
That what the creationists have been saying all along.

The Stroustroup will be pleased that you recognize His handiwork. Hail Bjarne!

:^)

851 posted on 01/21/2003 3:29:42 PM PST by general_re (Think green...burn only 100% recycled dinosaurs in your car.)
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To: beavus
Q. How many Creationists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Two. One to change it very quickly and the other to point out that no transitional forms were observed.
852 posted on 01/21/2003 3:41:11 PM PST by general_re (Think green...burn only 100% recycled dinosaurs in your car.)
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To: DWar
Placemarker
853 posted on 01/21/2003 3:51:23 PM PST by DWar
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To: general_re
Q. How many Creationists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Two. One to change it very quickly and the other to point out that no transitional forms were observed.

Shouldn't there be a third to jump up and down yelling "We win! We win!"

854 posted on 01/21/2003 4:13:00 PM PST by beavus (Uhh, hello? I'll take a quarter pounder and a dozen chicks in tight shorts to go, please.)
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To: Aric2000
Placemarker for me.

Waiting for MEgoody's scientifically verifiable facts that dispute evolution.
855 posted on 01/21/2003 4:18:41 PM PST by Aric2000 (Evolution is Science, ID and Creationism are religion, Any questions?)
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To: PatrickHenry
Placemarker (might as well, everyone else is).
856 posted on 01/21/2003 4:34:09 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Bring back the Articles of Confederation!)
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To: balrog666
Oh, balrog, you are such a waste of my time. Kindly go play in the street.
857 posted on 01/21/2003 4:41:29 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: beavus
We indeed can comprehend (quite well!) that the Sistine Chapel ceiling did not come about by a bunch of paint cans falling up.-me-

By contrary to our observations, I was referring to such notions as consciousness without a brain, vision without sense organs, actuation without matter or energy, and existence in a "universe" devoid of space and time.

Neither I nor Christianity says that man is part body and part spirit. That there is nothing but matter though is easily refuted - consciousness, conscience, intelligence, logic, mathematics, love have no material existence.

858 posted on 01/21/2003 4:43:57 PM PST by gore3000
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To: beavus
Certainly nothing has yet been presented to demonstrate the impossibility of any evolutionary theories.

Clearly you have not been reading the thread, or wish to ignore the facts. I certainly have shown that mammalian live bearing could not have descended from reptilian egg-laying so evolution has to be false since this shows it to be impossible.

This is a step above complete denial of science.

It is not religious people who are denying science. Science has flourished under Christianity (and not under any other form of belief). It is the atheist/materialist/evolutionists which deny science by claiming that matter organizes itself by random means. All the scientific laws disprove this, without specific cause and effect there is no science and evolutionists deny this.

There have been insults.

There sure have been, lots of them from your fellow evolutionist Dan Day whose every other sentence is an insult. You should be addressing this to him.

859 posted on 01/21/2003 4:53:55 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Phaedrus
Oh, balrog, you are such a waste of my time. Kindly go play in the street.

You, on the other hand, are a waste of everybody's time. I'd say the same about the street to you, but I suspect you are too old and mentally fossilized to find it.

860 posted on 01/21/2003 4:59:49 PM PST by balrog666 (If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain)
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