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Why men should be able to sue women who lie about who's the daddy
JWR ^ | Nov. 27 , 2002 / 22 Kislev, 5763 | Dan Abrams

Posted on 11/29/2002 7:08:00 AM PST by Balto_Boy

On Friday, Nebraska's highest court ruled that a man whose ex-wife may have lied to him about being the father of their child cannot sue the woman for fraud and emotional distress. Why not?

IN ANY other realm of the law this would be a classic case of fraud. Robert Day had already been divorced from his wife for six years when he realized he was out of town when she conceived. A DNA test proved with 100 percent certainty that Adam wasn't his. Well Robert Day alleged that mom lied about her due date to fool him.

He had paid child support, medical expenses and even half of his wife's employment-related daycare costs after their divorce. She's since remarried. The court cited a number of psychological studies about the importance of parents bonding with children and held "In effect Robert is saying he's not my son. I want my money back" and that the lawsuit "Has the effect of saying I wish you'd never been born to a child."

No, it says "You lied to me, I want my money back," and the lawsuit has the effect of saying "I wish you hadn't lied and now hope you'll go after the real father for the money you snookered me from me." Look, these cases are difficult and different. If the result would be that the child would suddenly go hungry or lose his home, those special circumstances should matter, but that should be the exception.

The court's opinion focuses solely on public policy. How is it good public policy to encourage a philandering woman to lie? Why shouldn't she at least have to seek out the real father to make him pay?


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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Find a good girl who is straight edge, doesn't do drugs, drink , smoke and is faithful.

Can you help me find Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too?

21 posted on 11/29/2002 8:11:03 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: BuddhaBoy
Hey, I was just offering approbation for your stated point of view! A girl can't even be nice. :D
22 posted on 11/29/2002 8:11:10 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Gunrunner2
Wife lied to him.
Kid not his.
Fraud.
Case closed.

Correction for you, rum runner,

Wife lied to him.
Fraud.
Kid still his.
Case closed.

I suppose you support other liberal ideas like stupidity or feeling sorry for someone allows them to shirk responsibility or be exonerated for crimes.

23 posted on 11/29/2002 8:12:05 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: BuddhaBoy
BINGO!. Unfortunately this is one of those sage points of wisdom that come to to many men after the age of 40. File it under "If I knew then what I know now"
24 posted on 11/29/2002 8:14:58 AM PST by L`enn
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To: tallhappy
Tell ya what, genius;

Why dont you save it for someone who cares? You dont know me, and suggesting so, proves your own ineptitude.

25 posted on 11/29/2002 8:20:50 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Gunrunner2
Tell it to the court.
26 posted on 11/29/2002 8:22:53 AM PST by IronJack
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To: tallhappy
"Rum runner?"

Okayyyy. . . .

Kid is not his genetically.
The kid is not his.
Case closed.

Regarding the rest of your post, perhaps there are other people out there that can translate what the heck you are talking about.

Have a nice day.
27 posted on 11/29/2002 8:23:18 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: BuddhaBoy
"Once a man's name is on a marriage certificate and/or birth certificate, he will in one way or another end up an indentured servant at the point of a government gun. "

I think you have overstated your case here. Lots of men get married, stay married, have kids and never have any government agents show up at their door. It's just important to pick the right woman and treat her well. As it always has been.

28 posted on 11/29/2002 8:23:39 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: BuddhaBoy
Tell you what, boy, how bout you keep it to yourself if you want to back down and cry for mercy.

Why am I not surprised you run away like a chicken, boy.

29 posted on 11/29/2002 8:24:48 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: L`enn
Well, I'm not 40 yet, but thanks.

Some silly people want to suggest that this is some personal agenda of mine, which is just nuts.

The simple fact is; men are at a serious disadvantage these days when it comes to a woman scorned.

With one word, a woman can have a man removed from his home and restrained from it as well, whether he did anything or not.

Now, the courts want men who didnt father children to pay for them, just because they happen to have a buck or two, while ignoring obvious fraud against him.

I dont know why any man would want to take that risk until things change.

30 posted on 11/29/2002 8:24:52 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: tallhappy
You are an idiot.
31 posted on 11/29/2002 8:25:15 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: IronJack
Ya. . .maybe, but I fear the court does not allow fairness and common-sense.

Cheers.
32 posted on 11/29/2002 8:25:54 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2
So genetics is all?

When you take responsibility for a child, the child is nothing? Not human? Just an object.

You returm it when you see it is the wrong brand name?

Pathetic, man, pathetic.

Some people know how God sets us apart from the animals. Some (eg rumrunning drunkards of the literal and figurative sort) don't.

I thank you for clarifying your position that a baby one might raise from birth is actually no more than a pair of shoes to you.

33 posted on 11/29/2002 8:29:30 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Balto_Boy
Robert Day had already been divorced from his wife for six years when he realized he was out of town when she conceived.

It took him six years (or longer) to figure out he was out of town and this wasn't his kid?!!! 'Nuff said.

34 posted on 11/29/2002 8:30:54 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: BuddhaBoy
Good one, boy. Your making your point all so well.
35 posted on 11/29/2002 8:33:09 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Gunrunner2
Kid is not his genetically. The kid is not his. Case closed.

That's not the case in all states. In my state, if a child is born to a legally married man and woman, the child is legally theirs, and the husband is responsible financially for the child. I don't think that a paternity/support suit can be filed against the biological father in this situation.

CASE NOT CLOSED

36 posted on 11/29/2002 8:33:22 AM PST by WarEagle
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To: BuddhaBoy
Once a man's name is on a marriage certificate and/or birth certificate, he will in one way or another end up an indentured servant at the point of a government gun. Just say no, Men.

Just part of the greater liberal scheme to destroy America by destroying the family.

37 posted on 11/29/2002 8:33:27 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: tallhappy
In the lexicon of today, "Whatever"

If the guy wishes to maintain a relationship, that is his choice, but to compell him to pay for his wife's evil deed, that is hardly fair and right.

By making the guy pay that only makes him a checkbook, no more, as long as he keeps paying everything is just peachy.

Go after the genetic father and make him pay. What's wrong with that?

I guess if one wants to be a doormat, that is a personal choice.

Hugs to all, bye (been hitting the rum early today--hic*).
38 posted on 11/29/2002 8:39:03 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Dutch-Comfort
"In my humble opinion, the law should require a woman to get a signed and notarized document from any male that she sleeps with before she sleeps with him that any results of his sperm meeting her egg are his financial responsibility."

Ummmm, maybe something like a certificate of marriage, maybe?

This is just another example of what happens to a society when it allows the institution of marriage to become perverted.

39 posted on 11/29/2002 8:39:45 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: WarEagle
The point is: it should be--buh bye.
40 posted on 11/29/2002 8:39:55 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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